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Re: Berserk

Post by Werel on Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:50 pm

Spoiler:

Enail wrote:There's a similar line, it's just not exact (and most of that could just be translation choices).

Ohhh right, I'd forgotten the weirdly clunky "sword master," but I guess "sheath" is in there somewhere Grin

Also, I forgot to Shiny/thrilled about my favorite part of Casca's fighting style: she knows she doesn't have the bulk or mass to crush dudes' heads like Guts or slice right through them like Griffith so instead she PRECISELY TARGETS THEIR ARTERIES and it is SO COOL. Way to fight smart, Casca.
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Re: Berserk

Post by litterature on Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:01 pm

Werel wrote:
Enail wrote:You, uh, know you have the power to start threads, right? Razz

Now I'm pointing this at you, litterature Razz

(Seriously, I would love this thread but don't have time to make it today, if you wanna go for it I'm IN)

It's 4AM where I am and I'm feeling a little tired but I can open it tomorrow if you want! : D

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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:38 pm

Manga Vol 8:

-Casca being badass, and that cool "you were interesting enough, but you're also a total swine" before taking him down Shiny/thrilled
-Guts' fight was really tense while he didn't have a sword. And then as soon as Griffith throws him the sword, I was like "okay, fight's over"  Laughing
-Rhino horse died  Sad  
-Griffith coldly wrecking creepy noble dude's shit before putting a sword through his eye  Shiny/thrilled
-Casca just smiling and asking Guts to help, him holding out his hand without a word, actually sort of smiling too. These two  Happy tears   ...Something bad's going to happen soon, isn't it No
-The look on her face, the look on his face.
-And then the next page, picking her up all "I'm an even better matchmaker than I am a fighter, let's go"  Laughing
-Guys, I'm lost, what's he supposed to be thinking about the sword here?  confused
-Corkus enjoying the spotlight, Casca and her fangirls  Laughing  
-The panel with Guts standing in darkness outside  
-Damn, Griffith sure knows how to thwart an assassination with style and murder. And more style, that second panel.... "There are no spectator seats on the battlefield"  Shudder but also Shiny/thrilled This whole scene was beautifully done.
-The queen refuses to acknowledge being burned to death  rofl (but a grim rofl)
-Yikes, Griffith really can see into peoples' souls or something. Foss never had a chance against him.
-Guts was gonna leave without saying goodbye Sad
-The fact that he's leaving to try and find a goal or dream of his own and meet Griffith as an equal really shows how far he's come; it's actually a goal with some real feeling behind it itself, and I don't think it's something he could have done a few years ago. It says something about his inner strength, too, that he's able to walk away, to set himself against Griffith's will, even if it's for Griffith he's doing it. It's the first time I've felt like there's a spark in him that might not be destroyed by whatever horrible things are coming.  :/
-Judeau's certainly a sharp cookie, I hope that's not  going to get him in trouble someday No
-Woah. I didn't think he'd go this far to keep Guts, I was expecting he'd trust that he's got his claws deep into Guts and could let him go and reel him back in again when the time was right.
-"This says to me I'm still worth spilling blood over in your eyes." Right in the heart Sad
-Bomaye, your ship is really real now, they've both said/thought it out loud! Grin
-He really beat Griffith, holy shit. Lucky, given how far Griffith was willing to go :/

These reactions are getting kind of long Uh-oh

ETA:
Spoiler:
Bomaye, your reactions to the ballroom scene  rofl  Also, I think I just got spoiled a little for the next vol - Werel, you have faaaaaaiiiiiilllllled meeeeeeeeee!
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Re: Berserk

Post by Werel on Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:05 pm

Manga Vol 8:

Enail wrote:-Guts' fight was really tense while he didn't have a sword. And then as soon as Griffith throws him the sword, I was like "okay, fight's over"  Laughing
....
-Guys, I'm lost, what's he supposed to be thinking about the sword here?  confused
....It was Zodd who threw him that sword silent

-Corkus enjoying the spotlight, Casca and her fangirls  Laughing  
Corkus doing Hulk Hogan was the first time I was ever introduced to the Hulk Hogan thing, I now think of it as "the Corkus thing" Laughing

-The panel with Guts standing in darkness outside
And Griffith's smile at him, aughhhhhh
-Woah. I didn't think he'd go this far to keep Guts, I was expecting he'd trust that he's got his claws deep into Guts and could let him go and reel him back in again when the time was right.
Yeah. This face still gives me shivers. Seems like the first time Griffith has had anything but complete confidence in his power over somebody and it's terrifying. "I might really kill him. But if I can't have him... I don't care... good!"

(And this image of Griffith holding Casca in the egg shell... ffffffffffff it haunts me, given parallels to later imagery  Shudder)

Enail wrote:-Judeau's certainly a sharp cookie, I hope that's not  going to get him in trouble someday No
Shiny/thrilled Judeau is far and away my favorite minor character for a reason. Acute Social Perception Masked Under a Thick Layer of Smiling Chill-type characters always gets a happy ending, it's a narrative guarantee, don't be silly...

Enail wrote:It's the first time I've felt like there's a spark in him that might not be destroyed by whatever horrible things are coming.  :/
How do you like that subtle symbolism of it being a snowy-ass day when he leaves the "campfire" to wander out into the cold world alone. Yeah. P subtle huh.  Smug

Enail wrote:These reactions are getting kind of long Uh-oh
YES IT'S MARVELOUS Shiny/thrilled

ETA:
Spoiler:

Enail wrote:Bomaye, your reactions to the ballroom scene  rofl  Also, I think I just got spoiled a little for the next vol - Werel, you have faaaaaaiiiiiilllllled meeeeeeeeee!
DOH!! It's at the very beginning of 9, you're only spoiled about 25 pages' worth Uh-oh

(And then you'll be ahead of bomaye before you hit that scene, cause a Big Pivotal Character is introduced early in 9 who's left out of the anime Wink)
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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:26 pm

Manga Vol 8:

Werel wrote:
Enail wrote:-Guts' fight was really tense while he didn't have a sword. And then as soon as Griffith throws him the sword, I was like "okay, fight's over"  Laughing
....
-Guys, I'm lost, what's he supposed to be thinking about the sword here?  confused
....It was Zodd who threw him that sword silent
Wait, what?! How the fuck did I miss that?!?  BRB, rereading! ...I think I somehow scrolled past a key panel or two or clicked through a page too many accidentally, and then just assumed it was Griffith because I didn't quite get what had happened  Uh-oh


-Woah. I didn't think he'd go this far to keep Guts, I was expecting he'd trust that he's got his claws deep into Guts and could let him go and reel him back in again when the time was right.
Yeah. This face still gives me shivers. Seems like the first time Griffith has had anything but complete confidence in his power over somebody and it's terrifying. "I might really kill him. But if I can't have him... I don't care... good!"

Biggest brrrrr moment yet.


Enail wrote:-Judeau's certainly a sharp cookie, I hope that's not  going to get him in trouble someday No
Shiny/thrilled Judeau is far and away my favorite minor character for a reason. Acute Social Perception Masked Under a Thick Layer of Smiling Chill-type characters always gets a happy ending, it's a narrative guarantee, don't be silly...

Oh, okay, whew! Happy endings huzzah!  Yeah, h-huzzah... yeah.   Uh-oh


The ETA bit
Spoiler:

Enail wrote:Bomaye, your reactions to the ballroom scene  rofl  Also, I think I just got spoiled a little for the next vol - Werel, you have faaaaaaiiiiiilllllled meeeeeeeeee!
DOH!! It's at the very beginning of 9, you're only spoiled about 25 pages' worth Uh-oh

No worries!


(And then you'll be ahead of bomaye before you hit that scene, cause a Big Pivotal Character is introduced early in 9 who's left out of the anime Wink)
At long last, aheadness will be mine, all mine! Muahahhahahahhahaha!
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Re: Berserk

Post by bomaye on Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:07 pm

Enail wrote:
Manga Vol 8:

-He really beat Griffith, holy shit. Lucky, given how far Griffith was willing to go :/

Spoiler:

To me, it wasn't even that he beat him, but utterly destroyed him. Griffith has seemingly never lost at anything ever. Getting what he wants with perfect strategy is how life works for him. I don't know if it was in the manga, but in the anime it was the first time we heard inside of his head how exactly he strategizes and how confident he was that he was going to beat Guts, it was just a matter of whether he'd have to accidentally kill him or not to do it. And then with one fucking stroke, Guts breaks his sword and breaks him. He beats him as easily as a child in a sword-fight, regardless of strategy, with overwhelming force, thanks for playing kid but here's your spanking (tumblr juts broke out into a nervous sweat) and now we're going on with our lives. This dude is used to conquering the unconquerable, the only fight he's ever really lost was against an effing demon and even then he caused significant damage to it. Just effing destroyed.


These reactions are getting kind of long Uh-oh

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Re: Berserk

Post by Werel on Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:18 pm

Spoiler:

bomaye wrote:
thanks for playing kid but here's your spanking (tumblr juts broke out into a nervous sweat)
rofl

Just effing destroyed.
Yeah. When your first-ever taste of defeat in your whole life is the highest-stakes encounter you've ever had in your life, and it's also pretty much the end of the first taste of legitimate friendship you've ever had in your life, you go and do crazy shit afterwards Uh-oh

That's why we do these things. The longer, the better Wink wink nudge nudg
I'm actually pretty pissed you're not turning in 40-page publication-quality critical essays, Enail. This low-effort shitposting needs to stop Disapproving
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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:44 pm

Spoiler:

Werel wrote:
bomaye wrote:
thanks for playing kid but here's your spanking (tumblr juts broke out into a nervous sweat)
rofl
I second that  rofl

Spoiler:


Just effing destroyed.
Yeah. When your first-ever taste of defeat in your whole life is the highest-stakes encounter you've ever had in your life, and it's also pretty much the end of the first taste of legitimate friendship you've ever had in your life, you go and do crazy shit afterwards Uh-oh

W-wait, are you saying this doesn't end with Griffith writing a politely worded apology note for not respecting Guts' right to make his own choices in the first place? Sad


That's why we do these things. The longer, the better Wink wink nudge nudg
I'm actually pretty pissed you're not turning in 40-page publication-quality critical essays, Enail. This low-effort shitposting needs to stop Disapproving
Careful, that could still happen Uh-oh And you'd better believe my essays would be long and hard (and full of white-hot, accurately cited footnotes. Oh yeah, baby) Wink wink nudge nudg
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Re: Berserk

Post by bomaye on Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:22 pm

Enail wrote:
And you'd better believe my essays would be long and hard (and full of white-hot, accurately cited footnotes. Oh yeah, baby) Wink wink nudge nudg

How are you married?
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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:33 pm

'Cause I like a woman who can appreciate a good citation Cool (she does, actually, she's like the only person out there who actually reads all the footnotes Uh-oh)
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Re: Berserk

Post by Werel on Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:04 am

Enail wrote: And you'd better believe my essays would be long and hard (and full of white-hot, accurately cited footnotes. Oh yeah, baby) Wink wink nudge nudg

It was too big to be called an internet post about sword animes. Too big, too long, too hard and too footnoted. It was more like a large hunk of elemental Nerd.
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Re: Berserk

Post by Prajnaparamita on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:21 am

Yo guys am I doing this right?

Ch. 8:
-Why does Casca keep doing that fucking stupid anime girl trope thing where her knees lock together in an anatomically impossible every time she is weak/emotional/wounded/PMSing?! SERIOUSLY STOP IT THERE ARE OTHER, BETTER WAYS TO SHOW A CHARACTER IS STRESSED!!!
-I find it amusing that the soldiers serving under her in the Hawks address her as “onee-chan” though, it’s cute and endearing but I bet it pisses her off, lol
-“I need to not move around so the drug doesn’t take effect!” = does a giant flying backflip
-lol all the horses in Berserk always have the expression of “fuuuuuuck my life”
-Did I miss something or did Griffith just pull a body-sized machete out of thin air? Oh that was Zodd? Thanks guys--not that I know who that is anyway, lol
-They say the opposite of love is not hate but apathy and HOLY FUCK does Griffth’s comments to pedobear prove that right
-Oooh it’s creepy looking pudgy dude again! I’d totally recognize the significance of this and remember instantly who he is if it wasn’t the case that 95% of minor Berserk villains fit that exact description!
-God DAMN what a headdress on the queen. idk if that’s historically accurate (for the renaissance period at least, I’ve never seen anything like it in paintings) it suits her perfectly! Man, the fashion and the character design is by far one of my favorite parts of Berserk  
-Oh only interested in doing anything because dick. Right sorry and here I thought we were getting an interesting female character, my bad!
-Griffith to Charolette's cheerig: “oh bitch I heard you, I just don’t give a fuck”
-Yoooo the queen needs to tell whatever bitch is plucking her eyebrows to lay it the fuck off!
-CASCAAAAA IN A DRESS WITH FLOWERS IN HER HAIR!!!!
-It looks like it’s made out of spray roses and doll’s eye or some other kind of decorative berry… (cosplay dreaming)
-OH MY GAWD Princess Charolette looks even worse than usual she’s a fucking Cocker Spaniel
-yaaayyyy they’re all nobility now yay this isn’t going to end horribly at all nu-uh no way
-Wait is no one like “damn that entire giant wing of the palace is on fire we should do something about it”? Or making note of the fact that Griffith is just standing there having a nice chat with the people inside?
-Duuuuude… You’re wearing your fancy palace wear to assassinate people in? Geez Guts, I woulda thought you’d shed it as soon as physically possible
-“G-Guts-sempai… Do you… Do you think I’m cruel?!” “Baka Griffith-chan, you honto kawaii!”
-God dammit, Casca crying onto Griffith brings up some FEELS, man. I know what it’s like to crush on someone who won’t ever feel the same, girl, but ya just gotta pull an Elsa and let it the fuck go
-Princess Charolette’s mourning dress is actually her best look so far, lol. Maybe she just needs to not be allowed to pick out her own clothes
-“I can’t remain buried in his dream like this” What is that expression on Guts’ face, it’s nothing I’ve seen before—Sorrow? Sadness? Regret? Hesitation? Guilt?
-Man you’re totally right and it fucking hurts to agree with you but yeah, you have to leave. But damn don’t I hate it…
-I mean Corkus isn’t wrong in a way, there’s no room for dreams and idealism in the Berserk universe. Buuuuuuuuut… Just freeloading off of Griffith for the rest of his life would drive Guts insane (more insane?)
-Lol how many chapters has jailbait shoutacon been around and I only just learned that his name is Rickert
-You know Corkus, you might have an INT of -2 but sometimes you have your moments. In other words OH SNAP YOU GOT BURNED, BITCH!
-Griffith psycho eyes, this gonna be fun!
-I think this is our first real understanding of just how brilliant a tactitian Griffith is, to think that he’s working this fight out and playing it over and over in his head in a matter of seconds
-CAAAAAAAAAASCA IN THE SKYYYYYY WITH DIAMONDS

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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:38 pm

If you're suffering with us, you're doing it right!  Run in circles flail

Spoiler:

Prajnaparamita wrote:
-Why does Casca keep doing that fucking stupid anime girl trope thing where her knees lock together in an anatomically impossible every time she is weak/emotional/wounded/PMSing?! SERIOUSLY STOP IT THERE ARE OTHER, BETTER WAYS TO SHOW A CHARACTER IS STRESSED!!!

This was driving me crazy too! I finally just went with "90s anime, sigh" Shrug

I find it amusing that the soldiers serving under her in the Hawks address her as “onee-chan” though, it’s cute and endearing but I bet it pisses her off, lol

She's yet to react to it, so maybe she's used to it by now. But I can't imagine the first person to try it didn't get murdered Laughing

lol all the horses in Berserk always have the expression of “fuuuuuuck my life”

They're not wrong!  Sad


-God DAMN what a headdress on the queen. idk if that’s historically accurate (for the renaissance period at least, I’ve never seen anything like it in paintings) it suits her perfectly! Man, the fashion and the character design is by far one of my favorite parts of Berserk  
I know, right? It's like a portable set of bedcurtains, and it's so eeeeevilllll!

Oh only interested in doing anything because dick. Right sorry and here I thought we were getting an interesting female character, my bad!

I'd see it the other way around, she's in love with him because that's the way she was able do things and have purpose. Romance kind of as a side effect of devastating loyalty to a leader and what they represent, which is a common trope for 2nd-in-commands of all gender, and then that combined with being female results in luuuuuuuuurve, b/c all strong feelings in women mean love, doncha know :/

I've been liking the way they repeatedly parallel Casca's feelings about Griffith and Guts', sort of establishing them as fundamentally the same thing regardless of the fact that Casca's is romantic. It feels to me like if Casca was a guy or gay, or Guts were gay/bi, the basic thing binding them to Griffith would be the same, it would just change who had the crush. The big difference to me is not the romantic aspect, but that Guts' feelings/lack of dream require him to establish his own path to feel Griffith's equal, whereas Casca's goal being to assist in Griffith's means she doesn't need or get that kind of arc - and that's the part that's a bit frustratingly typical for a major female character to me.
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Re: Berserk

Post by Prajnaparamita on Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:03 pm

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Oh only interested in doing anything because dick. Right sorry and here I thought we were getting an interesting female character, my bad!

I'd see it the other way around, she's in love with him because that's the way she was able do things and have purpose. Romance kind of as a side effect of devastating loyalty to a leader and what they represent, which is a common trope for 2nd-in-commands of all gender, and then that combined with being female results in luuuuuuuuurve, b/c all strong feelings in women mean love, doncha know  :/  

I've been liking the way they repeatedly parallel Casca's feelings about Griffith and Guts', sort of establishing them as fundamentally the same thing regardless of the fact that Casca's is romantic. It feels to me like if Casca was a guy or gay, or Guts were gay/bi, the basic thing binding them to Griffith would be the same, it would just change who had the crush. The big difference to me is not the romantic aspect, but that Guts' feelings/lack of dream require him to establish his own path to feel Griffith's equal, whereas Casca's goal being to assist in Griffith's means she doesn't need or get that kind of arc - and that's the part that's a bit frustratingly typical for a major female character to me.

Derp my bad, I should have been more specific there, I wasn't talking about Casca there, I was talking about Creepyeyes McQueenface of the dread bed curtain headdress--basically I found the whole justification for her getting involved in the plot to kill Griffith because she was banging the duke who never actually cared for her either because the king was too busy with his military leadership to ever really be there for her because he was too caught up on the sadfeels over his dead first wife and never really wanted to be king but tried anyway utterly pointless and a waste of space. Like damn, she's nobility concerned with the reputation of her court and bloodline, Griffith is an ambitious commoner working his way super quickly up the ranks--boom, that's all the justification you need! The whole love-hate relationship with Julius and the whole "I will get revenge as a woman!", it's just... You don't care about any of these characters, they've never been presented as much more than one dimensionally evil and jealous, and they're all about to get offed in less than a chapter or so. I don't really get why we needed to go into the queen's rather uninspired yet overly complicated backstory and I feel her only getting involved in the intrigue because Griffith took out that D a cheapening of what could have been a badass, if minor, female villain.

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Re: Berserk

Post by Werel on Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:03 pm

Movie 1 thoughts are 95% grumpy, sorry to anybody who really likes this film.

Good news is, there are nested bullet points Wink wink nudge nudg

more like dreg of the high king:

CHEESY. Cheesy. Tsk.

1. The soundtrack innocent

  • Especially given the amount of Dark Souls-type media in the past few years, this soundtrack is so derivative that it makes BERSERK, the most super old school dark fantasy sword guy shit out there, feel derivative. Plus the old soundtrack is just so gooooooood

2. The voices innocent

  • Casca sounds nothing like Casca, she sounds like some bored grownup with a job instead of somebody really young and prematurely war-hardened who INTENSELY means what she's saying
  • Haaaaaaaate this Griffith, sounds like a creepy dork, not buying him for one second as the most charismatic man in the world
  • Yup, Guts is missing that growl
  • Corkus just sounds like some regular guy wtf
  • Zodd sounds dece though

3. The animation innocent

  • CanNOT get with this kind of animation. The CG bits felt like a Dreamcast game (that camera circling Zodd and Guts? PAINFULLY LAME), the 2D animation was flat and lifeless, and the switches between them were really jarring. And YEP,
    bomaye wrote:Also the quality would dip between main and non-characters, so you'd see some random guard who looked like a cheaply animated Tales Of random battle enemy standing next to a well defined animated character.
    This drove me NUTS.
  • The vibe was all off. The world was just Too Effin Pretty. Everything was too glossy, not all grimy and shitty because it's MEDIEVAL EUROPE
  • Casca's suddenly way lighter skin. What the fuck. Why did they make her so white. Casca is brown. Sad
  • Really none of the characters seemed to have the endearing little visual quirks they usually do, seems like everybody got genericized. Judeau's half-smile and chubby cheeks GONE (why so serious, Judeau?), Corkus' weird nose and exaggerated eye-bags GONE, Rickert just lookin like some shoutacon jailbait (goddamn Prajna rofl)
  • BUT: I do actually like the way they did Griffith's face here. Closer to the manga, and yep, adds to that superhuman feel

4. The writing innocent

  • I get that it's a "quick, catch up before the new show" summary movie, and it's like 4-5 hours of the show crammed into 1, but the movie just felt like being strapped into the Clockwork Orange chair and force-fed plot points. No time for the viewer to digest the implications of details, so they exaggerate all the relevant details and shove ‘em in your face like some crappy kabuki version (not that kabuki Berserk wouldn’t probably be awesome, but this ain’t it)
  • I think there were some lines added or modified that just didn’t work at all, like Casca sitting in the tavern listening to Corkus talk about banging nobles and being like “Bang?” C'mon, she's been a MERC COMMANDER for her whole adult life, there is zero chance she would be either confused or discomfited by this, even if she’s thinking about Griffith
  • TUDOR???  YOU BASTARDS YOU CAN'T TOUCH CHUUUUUUDER


Bottom line: this movie makes a 20-year old TV promo for a manga look really good.

edit: actually gotta admit that I enjoyed it as a hate-watch, though Laughing


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Re: Berserk

Post by bomaye on Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:09 pm

There's things to be said about Casca's place in the story and how things progressed with her that can't be said yet silent @ Prajna and Enail

@ Werel

Get on the movie 2 train ASAP, I'm curious to see if you have a similar reaction to me <_<
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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:29 pm

Oh, Prajna, that makes sense, sorry, got confused!
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Re: Berserk

Post by Werel on Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:30 pm

Prajnaparamita wrote:Yo guys am I doing this right?
DOING IT = DOING IT RIGHT Shiny/thrilled

Ch. 8:

-Why does Casca keep doing that fucking stupid anime girl trope thing where her knees lock together in an anatomically impossible every time she is weak/emotional/wounded/PMSing?! SERIOUSLY STOP IT THERE ARE OTHER, BETTER WAYS TO SHOW A CHARACTER IS STRESSED!!!
I really hate this too. 90s anime, your perfume is so sweet, but your thorns so sharp Sad


-Yoooo the queen needs to tell whatever bitch is plucking her eyebrows to lay it the fuck off!
But that's how Yurius likes them Wink wink nudge nudg

-OH MY GAWD Princess Charolette looks even worse than usual she’s a fucking Cocker Spaniel
I LOVE HER STUPID HAIR rofl And yeah, I love a lot of the costume design, especially given that it was theoretically written by some stinky boy who likes blood and swords. I cannot forgive the movie for changing her ludicrous cloth pigtails from the hunt scene to A BIG HAT
VS


-God dammit, Casca crying onto Griffith brings up some FEELS, man. I know what it’s like to crush on someone who won’t ever feel the same, girl, but ya just gotta pull an Elsa and let it the fuck go
"You look pretty in that dress, Casca." WRECKT  Crying

-I mean Corkus isn’t wrong in a way, there’s no room for dreams and idealism in the Berserk universe. Buuuuuuuuut… Just freeloading off of Griffith for the rest of his life would drive Guts insane (more insane?)
"Corkus isn't wrong": the phrase Corkus has waited his whole life to hear

-Lol how many chapters has jailbait shoutacon been around and I only just learned that his name is Rickert
rofl Also, JUST YOU WAAAAIT

Welcome aboard the heartbreak train Prajna, choo choo your shit's bout to get ruined

@bomaye KAY. Also curious to see if it's way better, plus my fangirl heart demands I see the ball
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Re: Berserk

Post by Prajnaparamita on Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:23 pm

Werel wrote:
Welcome aboard the heartbreak train Prajna, choo choo your shit's bout to get ruined

Oh PUH-LEAZE
More about Prajna's sex life than you probably needed to know:

Because of my mad binging of Berserk to catch up to you guys I ended up hooking up with not one but two new guys in the past week, a cute Brazilian sweetheart and a wangsty (but still damn pretty) rich brat because apparently there ain't no fanboys like Berserk fanboys and as soon as I mentioned having read it they were like "ERMAGAWD FANBOY TIME" (and maybe with the first guy he woulda gone down on me for hours anyway because I made him pizza in my wood-fired oven and I guess that's the equivalent of throwing someone a sword when they're about to get attacked by a morally corrupt nobleman because they are then your bitch for life) but anyway I think rich boy just gushed like a decade of repressed Berserk feels on me because apparently nobody else he knows has even heard of it and then he brought me back to the cabin his family owns on a lake and we had super loud wild sex on like every piece of furniture they own and frankly I'm looking forward to the story getting super grim so I can thirsty text him late at night about how I'm so empty from Griffith's betrayal (come on, we already kinda know what happens given, you know, the fact that it's told to us in the beginning chapters of the manga?) and only some more of that D can make me whole because DAMN that boy is welding a greatsword, if ya know what I mean...

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Re: Berserk

Post by Werel on Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:32 pm

rofl BAHAHAHAHAHAHA-KA-NE

Oh my hell Prajna this is the first time I've ever heard of Berserk literally any anime getting anybody laid, much less TWICE, I'm so happy this thread worked Happy tears
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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:14 pm

Manga Vol 9:

They seem to have switched to a worse translation all of a sudden  Disapproving  
-Guts regretting his choice and remembering happy scenes Sad
-The whole scene of Griffith ...raping? seducing? the princess was chilling. All that intensity, but he's barely even there. And then curled up, naked and crying in the darkness. As always, total whiplash between  Shudder and  :/
-And how unlike Griffith to be caught unawares like that. He is not doing so well. Oh, but he's still got his vision ability.
-Noooooo, creepy king, leave her alone  No
-AMBUSH! RICKERT! CASCAAAAA! nailbiting panic  
-Even the behelit abandoning Griffith. That doesn't seem like a good sign.
-The Mountain and the Viper?  innocent
-Oh no! Casca and the Hawks had to become thieves! Corkus must be so disappointed
-I think I have s-something in my eye
-Guts twirling the wheels of doom around his fingers, bet he was good at yo-yo too  Laughing
-Judeau and Guts exchanging thumbs' ups, Corkus hmphing and Guts' mouth curving into a tiny smile  Happy tears
-Casca stepping up to the plate as leader. And it's kind of touching how eager the group all is to tell Guts everything she's done.
-I'm with Casca here. Really, Guts, you don't think it had anything to do with you?  Side-eye
-Oh, Casca. Sad
-I didn't think those two wouldever get there
-Casca's face when she says "I'm a woman," that look of total shame  Sad
-And then him telling her her scars prove she's not living a lie (I think? This translation is terrible!), and then him having a flashback and Casca comforting him. Happy tears
-I felt kind of like I shouldn't be watching them have sex, it was way too personal  Uh-oh

Something awful's going to happen to them soon, isn't it Sad
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Re: Berserk

Post by bomaye on Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:47 pm

Enail wrote:
Manga Vol 9:

-The whole scene of Griffith ...raping? seducing? the princess was chilling. All that intensity, but he's barely even there. And then curled up, naked and crying in the darkness. As always, total whiplash between  Shudder and  :/

Spoiler:

The way they did this in the second movie was something to fucking see. I haven't read the manga but I'm not sure it or the anime would be able to match how they handled the visuals of that scene. Griffith was robotic about it, you can't exactly tell what Charlotte was thinking during it (she showed all the signs of "Stop, I don't want this!", "Stop! We shouldn't do this!" and "Please don't stop!") and then it interspersed flashbacks of Griffith thinking about Guts and then seemingly having his own PTSD moment at the end (if I recall, he was holding himself similarly to when he did the deed with Gennon, prostituting himself out for power still doesn't feel good apparently).


Spoiler:

-AMBUSH! RICKERT! CASCAAAAA! nailbiting panic

Spoiler:

Second movie again (I think the anime showed this as a flashback later), if the movie version of Casca had a defining great moment, this was it. They were fucking DEAD but she took control Shiny/thrilled


Spoiler:

-The Mountain and the Viper?  innocent

I didn't even make this connection, holy shit  rofl


Spoiler:

-I'm with Casca here. Really, Guts, you don't think it had anything to do with you?  Side-eye

-Oh, Casca. Sad

-I didn't think those two wouldever get there
-Casca's face when she says "I'm a woman," that

Spoiler:

I guess I can say it now that it's happened, but I saw an interview with the manga-ka and he said that Casca was originally never meant to be a love interest to GATSOO, it just kind of happened as he kept writing. I think that may account for why she was somewhat of a less fleshed out character earlier, like she was just another Judeau or Corkus where they had their defining feature as it relates to Guts and Griffith and maybe a character moment once in awhile but wasn't supposed to be this big of a deal.
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Re: Berserk

Post by Werel on Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:05 am

Manga Vol 9:
Enail wrote:
-I think I have s-something in my eye
Where's the "full snotty tears" emoticon for that panel Crying

Enail wrote:-I'm with Casca here. Really, Guts, you don't think it had anything to do with you?  Side-eye
If he let himself believe that Griffith couldn't withstand his leaving, he'd never have been able to do it :/

And I guess "I destroyed the whole campfire by taking my tiny newborn dream-spark and leaving" is too heavy a thing for anybody to come to terms with quickly, so I can forgive him a little cognitive dissonance and/or denial on that front.
Enail wrote:
-And then him telling her her scars prove she's not living a lie (I think? This translation is terrible!), and then him having a flashback and Casca comforting him. Happy tears
THE SHIP IS REAAAAAALLL Happy tears

That translation IS terrible, though. Sad There's some good dialogue in that scene, wish you weren't stuck with a garbled version

Enail wrote:
Something awful's going to happen to them soon, isn't it Sad
NOPE No

bomaye wrote:I guess I can say it now that it's happened, but I saw an interview with the manga-ka and he said that Casca was originally never meant to be a love interest to GATSOO, it just kind of happened as he kept writing. I think that may account for why she was somewhat of a less fleshed out character earlier, like she was just another Judeau or Corkus where they had their defining feature as it relates to Guts and Griffith and maybe a character moment once in awhile but wasn't supposed to be this big of a deal.
HUH! I never knew that. That explains a loooot about why she doesn't actually feel like one of the Big Three in the manga until a few volumes in. K, acceptance levels of Casca's early 2D-ness just went up 33% Grin
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Re: Berserk

Post by Student on Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:59 am

This is fun Smile

Enail: That translation really does seem terrible. The official manga translation is great, though. If you want to know the official translation of something, just ask me.

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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:00 pm

Student, the site I'm reading had the official translation (pretty sure, at least) up till the last chapter, so I'm hoping maybe they'll switch back to that one for future chapters. If anything's really stumping me, I'll ask, thanks!



bomaye wrote:
Spoiler:

I guess I can say it now that it's happened, but I saw an interview with the manga-ka and he said that Casca was originally never meant to be a love interest to GATSOO, it just kind of happened as he kept writing. I think that may account for why she was somewhat of a less fleshed out character earlier, like she was just another Judeau or Corkus where they had their defining feature as it relates to Guts and Griffith and maybe a character moment once in awhile but wasn't supposed to be this big of a deal.

Spoiler:

Oh, that makes sense. Casca might be the only character I've ever seen who gets more developed, more competent and more interesting through being made a love interest, usually it goes the other way!

Aside from that I've gotten to really like Casca, I think it was a good choice bringing in a third point to the dynamic, just Guts vs. Griffith would land up a little too straightforward and separated, not have the same richness as when there's someone else involved and a bridge character between their relationship and the rest of the world. I tend to think most things work better with an uneven number in a dynamic to throw things off balance, though  Shrug




Werel wrote:
Manga Vol 9:

Enail wrote:
-I think I have s-something in my eye
Where's the "full snotty tears" emoticon for that panel  Crying

Spoiler:
I don't think I want to see that  Uh-oh

Spoiler:


Enail wrote:-I'm with Casca here. Really, Guts, you don't think it had anything to do with you?  Side-eye
If he let himself believe that Griffith couldn't withstand his leaving, he'd never have been able to do it :/

And I guess "I destroyed the whole campfire by taking my tiny newborn dream-spark and leaving" is too heavy a thing for anybody to come to terms with quickly, so I can forgive him a little cognitive dissonance and/or denial on that front.

Yeah, that's fair, I'll give him this one. And nicely put!

That translation IS terrible, though.  Sad There's some good dialogue in that scene, wish you weren't stuck with a garbled version

Me too  :/  Maybe after I'm done frantically trying to get through it in time for the new season, I'll go back and look for the proper translation or the original of that scene. But right now it's Run in circles flail, bad translation or no!
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