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Post by Enail on Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:55 pm

I usually watch it once, but find most ED songs pretty meh and nothing much usually happens, so I give up after that Shrug
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Re: Berserk

Post by bomaye on Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:32 pm

Berserk S2E10

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- So did that demon thing gallop off with Luca? Sad
- This egg guy looks like a sentient Behelit
- "Fighting these monsters as an equal or more" THAT ABOUT DESCRIBES GATSOO Shiny/thrilled
- Demon just wanted to talk to someone :/
- I don't get it, did Skull Knight kill that demon and eat his Behelit?
- Awriiight, Guts killing BDSM Angels Nod
- Oh, Behelit guy is still alive
- IS THE TOWER TURNING INTO A GODHAND
- Fucking tosses Isidoro rofl
- M-maybe Gatsoo can change the outcome of this Festival Sad
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Re: Berserk

Post by Student on Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:10 pm

Berserk S2E10

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The whole thing with the egg confused me so much in the manga. I think I need to re-read this arc.

As a sidenote: When this was initially published in whatever magazine Berserk is published in Japan, before it was released in actual book format, there was an extra chapter here. This chapter went into some details about what's actually going on. Miura considered this too revealing, though, and he opted to remove the chapter for the volume release.

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Re: Berserk

Post by Werel on Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:09 am

Finally caught up Shiny/thrilled

e5:

-I always kinda liked Isidoro. This show is turning his plucky-comedy-kid shtick up to 11 compared to the manga, but I actually don’t have a problem with it. If you can accept post-Golden Age Berserk as a different thing than pre-Eclipse, and see this show as the least serious segment of the manga adapted to be even less serious, then he’s a pretty good addition
-I always totally liked Luca (but how do you not like the “crusader army prostitute union leader with a kind, brave heart of gold" character?)
-But this super-lame fanservice onanism sequence... innocent
-Oh, poodle-hair Nina, your hair's just as poodly as in the manga Heart
-This Mozgus face, good lord rofl
-"I caught a thief" Laughing
-Getting closer to party cohesion, alriiiight

Enail wrote:Tons of words about ep 5
bomaye wrote:Same
Grin Grin Grin

e6:

-I Shiny/thrilled’d at the few moments where they animate Skull Knight moving really, really slowly when he’s not galloping somewhere super fast. I'd totally be into it if they stuck with it as a Skull Knight Feature
-"Do not have more than one you care for" indeed.
-“Shit’s getting real!” rofl
-Less orgy, more Great Goat
-The spanking always struck me as Luca, faced with the most horrific unnatural shit of her life, and just reverting to her most familiar MO (No-Nonsense but Nurturing Leader)? Shrug
-"I'm not trying to obligate you to me." GODDAMN, SERPICO
-Good old Farnese’s childhood Sun
“Enail” wrote:-And immediately after Joachim goes off the cliff, everyone's suddenly all normal "man, I'd better go, I've got work tomorrow, see you next tuesday?"  Kind of a sudden end to the hallucinations and wild cannibalistic orgies.
Suspect
Yeah. rofl

e7:

-Finally, more Great Goat
-“You’ll be the ones I sacrifice for my ambition” rofl I don’t remember Isidoro being this metatextual, but I’m actually pretty down with the way this show is handling him
-Concealed freakout + concealed boner = we’ve got a full-on Comedy Kid in Berserk, I repeat, this is not a drill
-This show could be so good if the music were good y’all Disapproving
-Seriously, just imagine the shot where Guts replaces the demons in her eyes, but set to some music that actually gets to you. What wasted potential for some real heart-pangs Sad

e8:

-WHOA, WHERE DID THIS ANIMATION BUDGET COME FROM?! This episode looks great. Surprised
-Serpico going “oh dear” + doing the Judeau head shake.
-LEDGE SCRAP. Shiny/thrilled Easily the most entertaining fight so far (largely because it’s not just Monster of Week vs. Man With Sword and there are reasons to care about why both sides are fighting, but it also looked awesome)
-Yeah, that “not gonna be Gambino” moment. Crying

e9:

-Is this pope speaking Japanese with an Italian accent? rofl
-Serpico/Farnese interactions really are one of my favorite things about post-Golden Age Berserk.
-Oh Nina, you living embodiment of everybody’s own fears re: secretly being a useless coward when it comes down to it innocent
-“Above my pay grade” Laughing
-“So, you’re Death?” Heart I’m such a sucker for characters who are all inappropriately bemused and polite in the face of the supernatural.
“Enail” wrote:-Holy shit, Mozgus gets to be an angel?!? Well, really just a holy-looking demon.  But still, he gets those fucking angelic wings!
I keep waiting for that statue to sprout ‘em and announce the Day of the Festival

e10:

-Poor Egg of the New World. Peak pathos as true evil is pretty fun stuff, though.
-I can’t believe they’re only going to get us through the Festival in this series, this feels like sort of a weird segment of the plot to choose for a show after a 20-year hiatus. Unless they’re gearing up for a season 2? scratch

“Student” wrote:As a sidenote: When this was initially published in whatever magazine Berserk is published in Japan, before it was released in actual book format, there was an extra chapter here. This chapter went into some details about what's actually going on. Miura considered this too revealing, though, and he opted to remove the chapter for the volume release.
Did you read it? If so, don’t tell me anything from it (I like how little info we have about what’s going on), but are you glad you did?


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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Sun Sep 04, 2016 3:21 pm

S2E10:

-Noooo, Luca!
-Alone, living in a garbage pit and crushed by corpses till demons found him. Classic cheerful Berserk backstory Wink
-Behilit demon, oh shit
-that priest-skin scarecrow idol makes a properly unsettling symbol for a god for the ugly, cowardly, cruel world.  Shudder
-Isidoro confidently talking up Guts to the helping soldier-guy while tears of terror stream down his face Laughing
-GO ISIDORO, BRAIN MOZGUS LIKE WE'VE ALL BEEN DYING TO DO SINCE HE SHOWED UP!!!  Gotta say, the kid's got courage.
-"It could have been anyone, I just wanted to talk to someone before I disappeared" Sad Peak pathos as true evil is an interesting idea, Werel.
-...Did Skull Knight just eat a behelit Uh-oh I mean, they call them eggs, but....
-Plague-mask angel's thanks to God is kind of heartbreaking
-I love how calm Luca is about everything, like, she's shocked, but no more shocked than she would be if she was told she'd have to pay a huge fine or something else mundane.
-Serpico appearing to catch Farnese out of nowhere, I bet he spends half his time just lurking around near Farnese so he can casually step out to be right there to save the day whenever she trips or realizes she's forgotten her toothbrush or whatever.
-Being like "see my angel wings" as proof of God's power that will let you defeat the White Hawk... who else besides angels have white, feathered wings? Uh-oh
-GO GUTS!!!!!!!!!! I do worry about that 'don't care for more than one' thing, though. Tough choices could be a comin'
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Re: Berserk

Post by Student on Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:23 pm

Werel: It's a really long time since I did read it and I'm not going to spoil what I remember, but I found it pretty interesting. It did confirm my suspicions about a few things.

It throws some information in your face which I suspect that Miura wants to deliver slightly more subtly in the future.

Edit: You are not missing anything by not reading it, though. And I remember it wrong. That chapter was from the Golden Age arc. It took place during the eclipse.

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Re: Berserk

Post by bomaye on Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:29 pm

S2E11

Spoiler:

- "Sorry, Death-kun, I kind of need to not leave. Domo arigato!"
- Is that Zodd showing up again? silent
- Another Eclipse incoming Sad
- Demon Abortion is dying :/
- Hrmmmmm, I wonder what's gonna happen to Farnese when she sees people trying to burn someone again
- Isidoro ;_;
- Holy SHIT, Guts o.o
- I like how the people think Guts is the demon and not the monster-y looking guy
- Annnnd he just burned the shit out of Guts
- OR NOT
- Isidoro and Puck take down demon angels Shiny/thrilled
- "Fuck'em, they don't do anything to save themselves." Harssshhhh, Gatsoo
- "If you meet god, tell him this for me: Leave me the hell alone." GATSOOOO
- Guts holds Casca ;_____;
- Farnese PSTDing while Guts is lighting the fire and telling them they'll survive, wtfffff
- Thaaaaaaaaaaat preview doesn't bode well o.o
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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:56 pm

S2E11:

-"Thanks for everything, Death, see you!" Laughing Luka
-Why is demon fetus dying all of a sudden?
-Demon fetus inside a living behelit, that seems pretty effin' symbolic.
-The guard playing it cool while stuck with his superiors, but being outed by Isidoro Laughing
-Pretty impressed with Isidoro & co's rescue of Casca from the pyre, that was good work!
-YES HE STABBED MOZGUS!!! that was cathartic
-Those are some mighty stone pummeling-wings Uh-oh
-the ol' "I had a bible in my chest pocket" rofl
-Farnese and Serpico still doing nothing
-Oh shit, that bare-handed punch opening into bloody fingers grasping uselessly, falling to the ground, that's not good
-GRENADE! YESS!
-"if you meet your god, tell him to leave me the hell alone" Shiny/thrilled
-"fly up to heaven by your own damned self" Shiny/thrilled Shiny/thrilled
-I do feel pretty bad for all the doomed faithful watching their holy leader fall and leave them to the monsters, though, sucks to be a random peasant in this world (or anyone else Uh-oh)
-Guts just holding onto Casca while she freaks out
-Sub-commander's face when the people he was ready to give his life to protect close the door on the refugees still left outside. Sad And he still keeps up the fight.
-Of course it's Serpico who notices that fire works against the blob
-Serpico's "I don't do well with fire" and Farnese can't even manage that much
-"We're going to survive" HELL YEAH GUTS!!!

Just one more episode nailbiting panic
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Re: Berserk

Post by Werel on Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:30 pm

e11:

-Oh Luka. Maybe you are just trying to act tough, but you're good at it. Laughing
-Hey Zodd howzit
-Aren't y'all just a little curious what happens when you put a God Hand fetus inside a behelit? Shiny/thrilled
-"I've been doing a lot of falling lately." Yeah Isidoro you've got your uses Laughing
-Minor complaint: I wish this show could strike the levity balance a bit better. I do like the hijinx vibe at times, but Tower of Conviction would be a nice time to give the situation some gravity instead of spending half an episode on Mozgus as Adon 2.0. "ANCIENT CORBORLWITZ HOLY SEE THOUSAND-FIST STRIKE TECHNIQUE HAR HAR" kinda jolts you out of the important "we're already caught in the whorls of karma, but you might be a fish breaking the surface" shit.
-"A real knight doesn't lose hope until the final moment." I salute you, Azan-sama
-The minute Guts starts lighting fires and saying "we're going to survive" and you can just hear Farnese's panties soaking
-The preview: "Being afraid means I want to live." Yes indeed, Nina.
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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:19 pm

Werel wrote:
e11:

-Minor complaint: I wish this show could strike the levity balance a bit better. I do like the hijinx vibe at times, but Tower of Conviction would be a nice time to give the situation some gravity instead of spending half an episode on Mozgus as Adon 2.0. "ANCIENT CORBORLWITZ HOLY SEE THOUSAND-FIST STRIKE TECHNIQUE HAR HAR" kinda jolts you out of the important "we're already caught in the whorls of karma, but you might be a fish breaking the surface" shit.

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Yes, absolutely. I've kind of gotten to accept the hijinx and even enjoy them for what they are, but a big part of why Berserk has a hold on me is the immense, epic feel of the struggle and tragedy and fate, and the nakama and their wacky stunts do detract from that even when they make you smile.
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Re: Berserk

Post by Guest on Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:56 am

You noobs notice anything different about Zodd-kun? Wink wink nudge nudg

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Re: Berserk

Post by Werel on Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:54 pm

HermitTheToad wrote:You noobs notice anything different about Zodd-kun? Wink wink nudge nudg
e11:
Other than the fact that he's got his right eye closed when he comes on screen? confused Nope, share!
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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:04 pm

E11:
I never notice anything Razz
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Re: Berserk

Post by bomaye on Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:00 pm

Sure didn't <_<

Spoiler:

He was in human form

S2E12

Spoiler:

- Guts is taken, Farnese  Wink wink nudge nudg
- Just roll Nina in a barrel rofl
- "Don't be a scaredy-cat, we're just being chased by hell-blobs"
- Puck seems to have some idea of what's going on silent
- "If you don't want to die, do something." Life motto of GATSOO
- So now imagery of Nina gestating in an egg/barrel <.<
- G-Griffith?
- Heyyyyyyy everyone survived the faux-eclipse/dawn of the new world (?)
- Just in time for the Kushans to massacre them Sad
- "Go easy on the guy with the large sword" Meanwhile Guts cut a bunch of fools in half and Serpico easily and seemingly almost accidentally cuts a bunch of them (his eyes opened just beforehand too)
- Dohohohoo Holy Chain Knight guy survived too
- Z-Zodd?
- Was he missing a horn the last time?
- KILL GRIFFITH
- KILL
- GRIFFITH
- Zodd being used as a steed :/
- Guts vs an Army, probably bet on Guts
- Ummmm, it's probably okay to be afraid of Cannibals, Joachim
- "I'm going to follow the Black Swordsman." And this is how it starts Uh-oh

SPRING

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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:56 pm

S2E12:

-Nina quietly crying over a broken ankle while everyone else is engulfed by horrific glob-demons. Her problems are on a different scale from other people's.
-Luca is waaay too chill about the glob-demons.
-"this is a world where the sun rises" Guts looks at Casca for that bit.  Happy tears
-This is not the time for existential angst, Farnese! GET IT TOGETHER AND BURN SHIT!
-I'm surprised the glob-demons can't engulf a barrel. They're breaking down doors left and right, destroying stone...I think it might be Luca's sheer unimpressedness keeping that barrel safe.
-Oh shit, that egg imagery around Nina in the barrel  Uh-oh
-The hand reaching for the moon, the egg, GRIFFFFFIIIIITTTTHHHHHHH
-I can't believe it's halfway through the episode, they're all alive and none of them were tortured or raped. Is this really Berserk? Uh-oh
-The demons gone and we're having an Exotic Foreigners interlude? This is a weird direction for the last episode of the season.
-Even Azan is still alive?!? WTF, where's all the despair???
-Casca reaching towards Griffith...I don't even know what emotion I'm feeling, but it hurts
-Luca not only defends the maddened hordes that wanted to burn them all as witches, she's mourning the living behelit guy, even knowing his wish may have created a terrible new world? What is this perfect unimpressed compassion person?!
-"The strength to protect someone is different from the strength to be with someone," wise words from Nina of all people, and probably prescient for next season. Guts is good in a crisis, but how's he going to handle the day to day?
-Nina and Joachim reconcile even? This is a weiiiirdly happy ending.
-Farnese finally decides that if she's going to follow someone, it'll be to go into the darkness and survive it. I felt like her character arc could have been done a lot better, though.  

I'm relieved everyone survived and nothing horrible happened (to the characters we care about, at least  Uh-oh), and completely ready to watch Guts FUCKING MURDER Griffith next season (and please can we get Casca coming back to herself? Sad) , but this episode was really weak for a finale, and I think it's mostly because of that inability to balance the two sides of the lighter elements and the hellishly dark. It's almost like two totally different stories, what in the one is just a footnote tragic backstory for the grumpy badass in the ragtag team making their way in a world full of things they can't fully understand, is instead its own story, this immense tragedy about the inevitable destruction of a moment of happiness in a cruel universe. And the latter is somehow the core of the former but the former may give us the happy ending of the latter. It's constantly mismatching expectations.
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Re: Berserk

Post by Werel on Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:02 pm

e12:

Enail wrote:I think it might be Luca's sheer unimpressedness keeping that barrel safe.
Laughing Yep I think so.
-Plot-irrelevant wonderins: I need to know what these globs are made of. They move like jelly, but once exploded, are solid like meat. Is it like a lobster, liquid 'til you cook it?
-"Don't pray. If you pray, your hands are closed." Yeahhh Gatsoo Cool
-Hey, rebirth looked pretty decent for the animation budget. Psychedelic GlobHand and all.
-"Oh, the puffy lady's alive!" Laughing
-Y'know, you could just cut the Kushan from this whole series and no one would mind. There are better plot mechanisms you could insert.
-Casca reaching for Griffith. Feelings.
-Griffith's straight up reptile pupils now Shudder
-Zodd-as-mount is one of my favorite conceits from post-Golden-Age arcs.
-Fucking...Luca...why do you have to be my super-sugoi unattainable ideal role model Laughing
-I really don't feel like Nina and co. got this much attention in the comic. Much less Nina's happy ending being like a crucial part of the SEASON FINALE. These writers really did a weird job adapting this arc.
-Serpico just being like "later" rofl
-I do like Guts finally having his own Casca in the form of Farnese. Such a clean parallel to Griffith acquiring Casca, except he's giving her a sword to defend herself from something more than the banal little evils of men. But I completely agree that her character arc could've been done a lot better in this show. It's one of my favorite things about the manga, but it felt pretty flat here, and the stuff they chose to focus on instead was baffling (Nina?! Who gives a shit about Nina?)

Enail wrote:this episode was really weak for a finale, and I think it's mostly because of that inability to balance the two sides of the lighter elements and the hellishly dark. It's almost like two totally different stories, what in the one is just a footnote tragic backstory for the grumpy badass in the ragtag team making their way in a world full of things they can't fully understand, is instead its own story, this immense tragedy about the inevitable destruction of a moment of happiness in a cruel universe. And the latter is somehow the core of the former but the former may give us the happy ending of the latter. It's constantly mismatching expectations.
YEP. You nailed it, way to phrase the problem with this show perfectly. The emotional tone is schizophrenic as hell, which means you can't settle into either side or really sink your teeth into the consequences of anything that's happened. FWIW, I do think the manga maintains the momentum and tragedy much better than this show's doing, so the source material isn't devoid of good content they could work with next season....

Really looking forward to the post-Hawk of Light world being animated, though. Glad the new show will probably get to one of my favorite post-Golden Age moments. (HILL OF SWORDS YEAHHHHH BOY)

Also, for y'all who are up to speed on the manga? We just passed an important anniversary, you guys.
Spoiler:

IT'S BEEN TEN FUCKING YEARS SINCE THEY GOT ON THE BOAT

August 2006

Ten. Years. On the boat. Disapproving
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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:26 pm

You've got me excited for next season, Werel! And I'm gonna have to carry on with the manga at some point.
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Re: Berserk

Post by bomaye on Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:37 pm

I was thinking that now that all the different animated versions have converged, I could probably start reading the manga up until the end of this arc and just follow along with each new season afterwards
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Re: Berserk

Post by Guest on Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:33 am

Werel wrote:
e11:
Other than the fact that he's got his right eye closed when he comes on screen? confused Nope, share!

Enail wrote:
E11:
I never notice anything Razz

bomaye wrote:Sure didn't <_<

Spoiler:
The scar. How do you suppose he got it? Wink wink nudge nudg



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Re: Berserk

Post by Werel on Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:15 pm

Ahhhhh, yup. Good eye, I didn't remark on that. Cool
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Re: Berserk

Post by bomaye on Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:58 pm

bomaye wrote:
S2E12

Spoiler:

- Z-Zodd?
- Was he missing a horn the last time?

I got it a bit late I guess but totally did not catch it on first showing
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Re: Berserk

Post by Werel on Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:05 pm

This Berserk musou isn't looking too good, you guys.

Guess which #1 most fan-requested character is going to be a DLC mount? Disapproving

Oh look it gets a cutscene too, super cool
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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:00 pm

WTF, that's... ugh.

I can't say I was keen on the game anyway, playing videogames immerses you in the world and the characters' experiences, who wants to go through that with Berserk?
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Re: Berserk

Post by Werel on Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:15 pm

I'd be down to be immersed in this world, but that's not what we get because we can't have nice things. Disapproving

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Re: Berserk

Post by Enail on Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:28 pm

I have something in my eye Crying
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