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The blu-ray version has been getting touched-up/the best animation
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Yeah, but I don’t remember when that happened in the anime. Did you read the manga? Did I forget that happening already? (Also, have they said the King’s name yet?)bomaye wrote:Didn't they hear an old story at one point about an Ancient King using the Red Behelit and maybe implying it was the Skull Knight? And you could also sort of gather that that's why Zodd warned Guts about what was gonna happen, because he was supposed to be one the sacrifices?
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I feel like it was when they were breaking Griffith out of the dungeon in the anime, but I don't remember for sure
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Huhhh, I'll have to go back and check. I have a vague feeling the manga went more into that, so I don't wanna say things that would spoil y'all.
Also, holy shit, the frames on the left look like actual drawings of human characters instead of scary uncanny valley frog monsters, might buy those blu-rays
Also, holy shit, the frames on the left look like actual drawings of human characters instead of scary uncanny valley frog monsters, might buy those blu-rays
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Berserk 21 - Bad animation alert
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- Making the Skull Knight feel nostalgic? Bringing "that" back into the world? Sounds scary
- The same path "you and I" did. TELL ME MORE
- Skull Knight had a "Bashful smile" wat? x) I assume she meant someone else?
- Random Guts fainting
- "The Wound should be enough to cause trauma." HA, Guts laughs at your silly traumas
- "How can a mere mortal fight a high-level astral being." HA, Guts laughs at your silly metaphysical rules
- It's almost like the forces of fate are forging Guts into a mortal weapon to kill the shit out of everything
- All of them are Apostles?
- "My name is not for the like of you mere Apostles." What a badass
- "I oppose the Godhand." Ya know, God has two hands if he made us in our image, is he part of a different Godhand?
- OH SHIIII SOME OF THE MONSTERS THAT WERE AT THE ECLIPSE KILL'EM ALL GUTS
- "Band of the Hawk" Oh you dun goofed now, friend
- Man, Flora sitting in the fire
- "I'll be so lonely!" ;_; ;_; ;_;
- Tea with the Golems!
- "He killed one us!" Zodd kills him x)
- Golem-san for the save ;_;>
- KILL
- THEM
- ALL
- GUTS
- Zodd said "demonic path"
- MAD DOG'S LOOSE
- Part of me keeps thinking that Guts might actually be the bad guy of this universe.
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NSFW Uncensored Blu-Ray preview for the 2016 Series
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- E21:
-the little golem giving her a massage is adorable
-Oooh, explicitly saying Guts is an echo of whatever happened with Skull Knight! What did Flora have to do with it all??
-Skull knight had a bashful smile?? I guess being a skull kind of ruins a person's facial expressions
-Oh crap, Butt-window Godhand did some real damage after all!
-Serpico politely offers to help grudgingly
-Goodbye peaceful nature house
-Yikes, Guts is too weak to even get the sword right through the apostle's body
-Guts' eye when the apostle recognizes him from the eclipse and mentions his master
-In spite of everything, he's shocked that Griffith is commanding them here
-And stunned completely frozen when Grunbeld calls himself part of the Band of the Hawk.
-Even at a time like this, Isidoro gets comedy injuries
-It's sinful for a mortal to live a long time??
-Come on, Schierke, mourn later, Guts needs that armour now!
-GOOD time for a decapitation, Skull Knight!
-Schierke and Serpico can hold off (or maybe even kill?) an apostle that easily? Damn!
-"Why is a monster acting like a warrior? You're just full of yourself" Guts says what we're all thinking!
-Golems fighting for Guts
-Killing demons from the inside
-Skull Knight's armour! Iiinteresting
-Oh shit, mad dog armour
I think it's more that it's a story about fighting not to be the bad guy, the whole "if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you" thing. Even if most of the people in the universe are going to land up seeing Guts as a bad guy for going against Griffith b/c he's doing his bringing light and saving the helpless thing, there is no way his existence is genuinely a good thing for the universe.
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It looks like Berserk is a recap ep this week
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- e21:
-Golem masseur is pretty adorable.
-Man I don’t remember all this “the choices you and I made” stuff with Flora and Skull Knight, I remember them being friends but not comrades. I’m rusty (but )
-“Your bashful smile.” I love every little detail they drop about Skull Knight
-Flora vs. Rustin PHILOSO-FIGHTO
-So nice of him to at least make sure his old friend dies by fire instead of teeth and blades. Legit pretty nice.
-Yikes, yeah, animation quality dip this episode, Guts is moving like a puppet
-“I’ll lend my shoulder. Grudgingly.”
The thing Miura admittedly ripped off the Godhand design from doesn’t have a twin-inverse-equivalent, so NO But legit good question, I wonder the same thing. (...also, there's some backstory that you'll get to soon(? I think) that makes some heavy implications about how/when this Godhand began, and some of the details raise that same question. Gooood call, uncanny foresight)bomaye wrote:- "I oppose the Godhand." Ya know, God has two hands if he made us in our image, is he part of a different Godhand?
Seems pretty fate-defying, don't it? She's invested in keeping the natural order and mortal plane intact, immortality/super long life is pretty contra-natural-order... (which, if fate-defying is sinful, Guts is totally the most sinful bad guy of all in this world)Enail wrote:-It's sinful for a mortal to live a long time??
-Grunbeld is like an Attack-on-Titan-caliber silly pseudo-German name
-DON’T YOU EVER FUCKING DARE SAY TAKA NO DAAAAAAAAN
-“I’ll be so lonely.”
-Zodd-Skull Knight patter is so good, mortal frenemies forevs
-Thanks, golems
-Hey there, Mad Dog. Forget everything else.
BOOOOO (but also good so I’m not behind )bomaye wrote:It looks like Berserk is a recap ep this week
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1) Discussion of Godhand made me finally go watch Hellraiser for the first time and holy cow, yeah, that's just them in that movie. Hey there Ubik (also, it stars Garak. Everyone's favorite franchises are represented in this schlocky horror-FX classic)
2) Remembered that all that backstory I was talking about is actually in the Golden Age & Conviction arcs in the manga (but didn't make it to the anime), so if you are a person who happens to have only seen the anime and looooves Skull Knight, check out chapter 53's story about the fallen city. HMM V SUBTLE IMPLICATIONS (also, this page in chapter 138, which has already been covered in the anime but the stuff about the wise man didn't make it in)
2) Remembered that all that backstory I was talking about is actually in the Golden Age & Conviction arcs in the manga (but didn't make it to the anime), so if you are a person who happens to have only seen the anime and looooves Skull Knight, check out chapter 53's story about the fallen city. HMM V SUBTLE IMPLICATIONS (also, this page in chapter 138, which has already been covered in the anime but the stuff about the wise man didn't make it in)
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Hey, who else do we know whose apostle/godhand form is visually representative of intelligence or wisdom? And how did that city get destroyed? And who does Skull Knight really hate? (Any link between those two isn't canon, just speculation, but it opens the door to some fun ideas including a second Godhand)
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Part or most of Chapter 53's story was in the movie, I think, because I haven't read the manga yet but still otherwise know it.
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Hey, who else do we know whose apostle/godhand form is visually representative of intelligence or wisdom?
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I actually don't know who we're supposed to know represents that <.<
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Yeah, "Pagan Wars" and unifying under one Kingdom and how the Church took over old styles of worship sort of sounds like one astral realm created their own Godhand with the Skull Knight and took over, and now those Pagan forces are flipping the script with their own Godhand and Griffith.
But they done fucked up, because Guts is going to kill them all
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Yeah, "Pagan Wars" and unifying under one Kingdom and how the Church took over old styles of worship sort of sounds like one astral realm created their own Godhand with the Skull Knight and took over, and now those Pagan forces are flipping the script with their own Godhand and Griffith.
But they done fucked up, because Guts is going to kill them all
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- HUH, that's an interesting take, I hadn't thought of it that way. I was more thinking, like, Gaiseric imprisoned that wise man who was previously his advisor/right hand/BFF/something, wise man did a Griffith & sacrificed Gaiseric and his whole kingdom to become Void, Gaiseric escaped that eclipse and became a Guts, and the "four/five angels" that came to wreck the city up 1000 years ago were maaaaaybe either those Four Kings of the elements that Schierke works with, or a previous Godhand (and something happened to the non-Void members later?).
But it's a fun idea, the Holy See and the Old Ways/paganism as a dichotomy, with each having its own Godhand. Seems to me like SK would be on the pagan Godhand if he's on team Flora, though, and the Holy See Godhand would be the one led by Femto, especially since Mozgus ended up being an apostle just like the other ones who serve Void & co. Wise man becomes Void, fucks up or kills the pagan Godhand (=whoever came to save him?), starts his own, the Holy See comes into existence to serve him and keep the pagan powers/other Godhand suppressed.
Then again, I'm 99% sure Miura didn't have all this stuff planned out from the beginning, so it might just be reading too much into the stuff he's writing it by the seat of his pants and who cares because KILL 'EM ALL
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- E22:
-I was wondering if the armour would stop him using the arm cannon. Guess not!
-Wow, Serpico didn't realize that it was a cannon, I'm surprised that snuck by him, dude doesn't miss much.
-It's dwarf armour? We really are getting full-on rpg-style here.
-Only one side of the Berserker helmet eyeslits is lit up. I suspect it wouldn't be a good thing if both sides light up.
-But if Schierke brings Guts back to himself, what are they gonna do about the Apostle?
-"No fair, he was in the middle of transforming" It's kind of weird having comic relief demons.
-Boy I hope Schierke's good at healing magic
-Guts' feelings, and all those moments of Griffith in his glowing light happy memories
-Poor Schierke, it doesn't seem right for someone so young to have to deal with the Eclipse memory
-Huh, there's Hebrew on the talisman, that's getting more directly Judeo-Christian than I thought
-Just in the nick of time
-Casca's snarl when Guts takes off his helmet
-Even after dying, Flora's got one more hit left in her
-Wait, is that...? Whassisname? The sneaky advisor guy?? Didn't he die?
-Schierke is right, Guts is being a little too cavalier about the armour, that does not seem good that he's still not taking it off (also, he takes it off to bathe, right?? It's been a month, Guts!)
-The peaceful seaside scene, and Guts didn't think he'd see the sunset
-Next week, Guts gushing blood again, this is getting to be a bit of a habit
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Berserk E22
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- Oh hrm, some of the Scooby Gang didn't know he had a handcannon
- Oh wow, the Berserker Armour is making Guts bleed to death from everywhere
- Guts doesn't GIVE A FUCK about your strongest blow
- That bone snap
- Grosssss, the Armor is snapping his limbs back in place
- Hrmmmm, so Guts is drowning in the Berserkerk Armor power rather than the power of a Behelit
- The Armor just bit that thing's head off o.o
- The Band of the Hawk acting like torchlights ;_;
- "Remember why you're fighting now!" Uhhhhh, he wants to kill them all, Schierke, I think he's actually doing that <.<
- That destroyed and aged face of Gatsoo
- Schierke trying to chase after Flora ;_;
- "Sayonara, my sunlight." ;_;
- Dohohoho, Laban is Satou's voice actor
- Is that supposed to be Foss?
- Now wait a sec, if they're in Midland's capital, it's not the Kushans doing this, but Griffith?
- Demon Elephant <3
- Oh, the Super Griffith Rangers to the rescue
- How in the shitfuck is Guts still standing, nevermind walking
- "Elf Hell" oh great
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- e22:
- -Yiiiikes, this episode looks as bad or worse than last season. I thought a week off was supposed to give them time to make the next one good
-“Pain is a warning to keep the body from destroying itself.”
-Also pretty surprised Serpico hadn’t noticed the cannon yet. He should be able to smell the gunpowder when he’s sniffing around Guts looking for his weak spots while he sleeps
I wonder why it can’t re-grow his right eye if it can knit his bones back together. Maybe it can’t heal damage not sustained while wearing it. Or maybe the armor agrees that one-eye Gattsu just looks cool.Enail wrote:-Only one side of the Berserker helmet eyeslits is lit up. I suspect it wouldn't be a good thing if both sides light up.
-Hawk torchlights And there are two of Griffith and only one Casca.
And Greek too, did I see an omega? I bet it’s like those pseudo-German names, just some Western(-er than Japan) stuff impressionistically cobbled togetherEnail wrote:Huh, there's Hebrew on the talisman, that's getting more directly Judeo-Christian than I thought
-Even Guts’ magic-protected-and-soothed ego is red fire
-Whitehair tiiiiime, the visual equivalent of Sisko's beard
-Schierke having to lose Flora all over again
-Man, why is Grunbeld getting his own novel, SO not one of the coolest characters
-FOSSSSSS
-That croco-man looks RIDICULOUS
-Ahem, excuse me, SIR, if the Kushans are pseudo-Indians, why would they have an AFRICAN elephant? It is biologically preposterous, and furthermore,
-Neato shot, Locus
-MIGHTY WIND A-COMIN’
-Oh my good lord that ocean looks worse than maybe anything in this show so far
-But it’s nice to see Casca laugh. When was the last time?
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I wonder why it can’t re-grow his right eye if it can knit his bones back together. Maybe it can’t heal damage not sustained while wearing it. Or maybe the armor agrees that one-eye Gattsu just looks cool.Enail wrote:-Only one side of the Berserker helmet eyeslits is lit up. I suspect it wouldn't be a good thing if both sides light up.
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Oh, right, that seems pretty obvious now that you say it
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-Hawk torchlights And there are two of Griffith and only one Casca.
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Don't care for more than one
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E23
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- "Crabinalism"
- This is Berserk, so Isidoro probably had it right with "Elf Hell"
- Huh, the former religious knight wants to be a witch
- "I'm pretty sure your PTSD qualifies you to learn magic, Farnese-san!"
- Serpico must hate the bad influence everyone is having on her x)
- Guts and full moons, man
- G-G-G-Guts giving Shierke life advice
- "A hatching into a great existence" as her voice breaks, fuck
- Holy shit, Schierke has a crush on Gatsoo
- Skull Knight wants in on some beach feels
- Sounds like Guts will turn into Casca if he keeps wearing the armour
- Griffith's wiping up the things that can hurt him, because people sure can't do it anymore. But Guts is a people so he'll sneak by and then kill them all
- Ohohoohohooooooo, the Skull Knight is trying to lead Guts outside of the story so he can kill the shit out of Griffith
- "The girl of the brand may yet regain her mind." FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
- "Your hope may not always be her hope." Is she gonna side with Griffith?
- ALLIGATOR MEN
- "Okay guys, you do your little magic shit, I'll just go kill'em all"
- ISIDORO KILLED AN ALLIGATOR MAN
- WOW SERPICO
- Welp, the Berserker Armour took over again
- RIP everyone, including the main party
- Mess of an adult
- "City of Humans" oh, so it'll be the worst place in the world basically
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- e23:
-“Crabinalism” is one of those puns that maybe just didn’t translate ._.
-Heh, having been to the actual island called Skellig I would totally believe it’s in the interstice, mystical as heck
-Serpico shares the audience’s reaction to Farnese: “Um, heresy?”
-“To me, it was undoubtedly a magic dagger!”
“Having your preconceptions of the physical world RIPPED OUT OF YOUR BRAIN by a rape horse is as good as starting as a toddler!”bomaye wrote:- "I'm pretty sure your PTSD qualifies you to learn magic, Farnese-san!”
-“If you keep it all inside as a kid, you’ll end up a mess of an adult.” Spoken from experience
-Schierke trying so hard to be upbeat about death and then just boo-hooing
-Uh-oh things have gotten too earnest, time for comedy crush moments
-“If you keep wearing that armor, you’ll end up being a totally sweet superhero like me.”
-Guts as fish breaking the surface of the water, or Guts as fish being reeled out of the water by Skull Knight?
-Kill ‘em all, Schierke!
-Heh heh love how the helmet just starts creeeeepin up on Guts
-“The girl of the brand may yet regain her mind in about 17 realtime years.”
-“I will not repeat myself.”
-Guts’ face when he seriously entertains that idea
-Daaaamn Serpico going all super saiyan
-Nice job, Isidoro!
-The alligatorman poking its snout through the barrier and shaking its head was kinda cute.
-This elephant fish is one of the goofier monsters
-Welp, say goodbye to Guts’ sense of taste I guess, no more appreciating Serpico's bouillabaisse
-“Who cares about your stupid hat?”bomaye wrote:- "City of Humans" oh, so it'll be the worst place in the world basically
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- E23:
-Elf hell
-Yay, at last Farnese might get some skills to go with her newfound human decency and courage!
-Interesting the way Serpico's first reaction is so negative, and especially that first slightly panicked-sounding "hold on" (or "wait," I forget the wording). Is he uneasy with the idea of her having or trying to attain that kind of power, knowing how terrible she's capable of being and that her change for the better is in part based on realizing she lives in a world she has little power over? Or scared she won't need him anymore? Or just wary of the risks of magic in general?
-Guts approves
-That water is so amazingly not-wet looking. Have the animators seen water before?
-OMG, Schierke running to hug Guts and break down, awww. The way he's looking out for and becoming a parent-like figure to the kids is so heartwarming. But also makes me verrrry nervous, though; it really ups the potential for an extremely awful "choose between Casca and the new crew" scenario somewhere down the line.
-WTF female elf I still haven't learned the name of, she's like 12, let her have an embarrassing crush on a kind adult figure without humiliating her and making things weird!
-Nooo, Guts, listen to Skull Knight, just because you can willpower your way through pretty much everything else doesn't mean you should get cocky about the armour! If there's one thing you can't willpower your way to win against, it might be yourself.
-That phantom-limb helmet
-SKULL KNIGHT GIVES THE BEST NEWS!!! COME ON ELF-KING, BRING BACK CASCA! ...he's probably going to be killed just before they show up, isn't he
-Guts' face when he says that
-"Your hope may not always be her hope." That sounds ominous.
-Fog crocodiles! FOGODILES!
-God I want Serpico's cape
-Isidoro's failed cool move And then some real ones!
-Shit, mad dog's got to take over already, this is not good.
-That ending
-And Schierke putting his words back on him
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E24
So was that the end of the season/end of the anime?
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- Oooo, a Holy See Convention
- Yeahhhh, looking like a witch is probably not a great idea around these parts, Schierke
- Isidoro you idiot, you made her cry
- I read that line as "You made a magical girl cry" and I was like "I don't think this is that kind of anime." And then I was like "Well, maybe if the Advent went a little differently..."
- NO, don't run after the freaky-ass hung scarecrow
- Hanged Kushan slave
- "People will take each other's lives for such reasons?" Welcome to Berserk, Schierke
- Oh shiiii, Griffith's seer
- Isidoro's face when blondie asks about "The Witch"
- Griffith's Seer is trying to twist around The Ugly Duckling to convince Schierke to go hang out with them
- (But it also plays into my theory that Team Guts are actually the villains of this world)
- "Everyone I travel with is normal" HA
- HOLY SHIT, LAUGHING AT HER BLUSHING WHILE THINKING ABOUT GUTS
- That poor seagull that Schierke's plucking while trying to convince them she's totally not tsundere, guys
- Isidoro is kind of disturbed that he just cut a dude without thinking about it
- Oh boy, just sent out the call to Gatsoo
- Blondie vs a terribly animated Caption Hook
- Guts lurkan ;_;
-"Get out of the city soon." Wuh oh
- Why couldn't we have animation for all of this? The inn scene looks so much better than the rest of this
- "That's the price for staining my comrade's new clothes" ;_;
So was that the end of the season/end of the anime?
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- e24:
- -Maybe don’t say “teacher” when they stop the witch?
-MAYBE DON’T DO MAGIC AT THE VATICAN GUARDS?
-Yeah Isidoro you asshole, don’t try to keep her from being burned at the stake
-Hanged man ghosts looked p coooool
-Wait, I’m kind of with you, Schierke. “People will take the lives of slaves just for ‘morale’? Even though that’d be like burning your most expensive property for basically no reason and probably crippling many industries that are built on slavery?”
-Sonia giggling at all the spirits going up with the smoke
-“The voices of the spirits are very hard to hear here, drowned out by human voices.” Welcome to why anyone lives in a city, Schierke
-Yeah, Isidoro’s The Witch face
-“A bunch of mean black swordsm—I mean crows attacked the ducklings”
-Man I looooove the Charlotte-as-Duck drawing, there’s my new avatar
-“We’re kind of similar. Owls and kites are both terrifying, robotic killing machines. Maybe we can be friends.”
-NORMIEEES
-I guess Guts does spoil her by Guts standards… he says words to her and looks at her occasionally…
-“Is that the one?” “Definitely not.”
-Sonia ESPvesdropping
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-I do like Isidoro’s voice actor a lot, think he’s doing a good job
-SONIA YOU INSIDIOUS FUUUUCKKK
-Yeah, go back to that mean ol’ black crow you love
-Why DOES the inn look so much better than, like, the 2fps fistfight with Isidoro and Mule? It’s weird, it looks nothing like the rest of the episode. Whole new studio? Preview of next season?
-My comrade’s new cloooothes
-“Even with all that, I can smile!”
That last couple seconds of the episode sure make it seem that way... is it confirmed not getting a season 3?bomaye wrote:So was that the end of the season/end of the anime?
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-Maybe don’t say “teacher” when they stop the witch?
-Why DOES the inn look so much better than, like, the 2fps fistfight with Isidoro and Mule? It’s weird, it looks nothing like the rest of the episode. Whole new studio? Preview of next season?
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That felt more like they were throwing us a bone after all that bad animation
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Finally got here!
- E24:
-Disappointed in Serpico that he didn't have an answer for the guards, he's been off his game lately. To be fair, he's having to do an awful lot of way-out-of-his-league fighting, though, so maybe he's just tired out.
-Isidoro ruining Schierke's hat made by Flora If those kids don't stop fighting, Guts is going to turn this car around and go home and NOBODY gets to fight horrifying monsters.
-The spirits of the hanged men /
-Schierke making the guards help her cremate the bodies was pretty badass. If she goes dark, she's going to be scary.
-Isidoro showing people a Schierke-pumpkin to track her down
-Uh-oh, Griffith's prophet, is she going to recruit Schierke
-Ducks can fly, though!?
-Charlotte's back in the picture! I kind of root for her, she was pretty resilient for what seemed like a throw-away character at first.
-I'm not sure "normal" is the right word for the people she travels with. Not magic, yes; normal, no.
-the little Kushan girl they keep focusing on looks a lot like Casca.
-Sonia's facial expressions are completely out of whack.
-Isidoro's fighting has really improved! Way to go, kid!
-Even Puck is kicking ass! I guess random pirates are nothing compared to what they've been fighting.
-Recruiting Kushan kids for Griffith
-NO!! DON'T DO IT, SCHIERKE!!!
-Whew, yes, stick with Guts!
-Oh shit, that warning
-Casca's hair is brushed!
-pretty animation obscured by the credits and kind of a trivial scene anyway, couldn't they do that for a big, important fight or one of the really touching bonding moments instead of this little, clumsy one?
That was kind of a weird episode to end it on, right in the middle of things and focusing on Schierke only. Surely there's got to be a 3rd season??
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It sorta feels like it was cancelled.
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