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Post by bomaye on Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:54 am

An anime about Vikings. High detailed, well animated, violent, probably gonna get fucked up at some point (since they're pillagers after all)

Yeah, I could absolutely see myself dropping Dr Stone if they don't up their game a bit.

Vinland Saga 1 [Repost from the Summer Anime Thread]

The animation and attention to detail is top notch. I'd actually liken the story more to Angolmois instead of Berserk, the violence is closer to Berserk (no sexual violence but it is Vikings so presumably there's pillaging at some point)

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- Except they did have a dude in chain mail swim and then not be wet when he got out of the water
- 1 minute it and they're already Vikings chopping dudes to pieces Shiny/thrilled
- Eyyyy Leif Erikson
- Thorfinn's dream about fighting Jormungand is perfectly childlike Shiny/thrilled
- "Why can't we get a slave"
- Leif's story about being standed
- Did Vikings know CPR?
- Viking history Nod
- Oh man, ripping part of his face off with the chain (was that a piece of tooth that flew off with the chain?)
- The hair in the chain
- The slave seeing his family as he's dying
- They're gonna give away the sick sheep to buy the dying slave
- "I'm gonna torture him" and then Thors stands up and fucking looms over them
- Northern Lights

Vinland Saga 2

Spoiler:

- Oh shit, sneaky English with an underwater attack
- They always die too early Happy tears
- Oh, was Leif Ericsson a Christian?
- Everyone's worried this warship is gonna cause a fight, instead they bow their heads to Thors
- All the younger guys excited for a war :/
- An army so strong that just said "no" to taxes Laughing
- Thors with his head down while everyone is celebrating that they're going to war :/
- Thorfinn and the kids playing "war" a lot rougher now
- I have no doubt that all these guys are gonna get massacred in the first battle
- Thorfinn's entranced by the real sword
- Thors trying to teach Thorfinn not to kill  Happy tears
- Axe-throwing with a Christian Monk as the target, I see we've entered "fucked up" territory
- Floki, you fuck, trying to assassinate Thors
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Post by Enail on Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:56 pm

Vinland Saga 1 (reposted from other thread even though it's not long enough to really be worth bothering)

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   A bit slow to start with, but I like the sense of place, how small they are against the land, the sky. And the historical details. I agree it's more like Angolmois in feel than Berserk so far, but that chain face-crush was pretty Berserk-like in its goriness.  And the scene of the runaway slave seeing Vinland and his family as he died was good, the way they played it quiet, not over-wrought.

Vinland Saga 2
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-I assume they're attacking the Vikings because they're Viking invaders, but my first thought was that it was a "fuck you for being clean!" Laughing(which might be historically accurate, there are records of Anglo-Saxons complaining that the Vikings seduced their women by being clean and well-groomed Uh-oh)
-the detailed/strategicness of the kids playing, that they had separate spear troops, like it's a realer practice-play than kids playing war usually is, gives the sense it's a culture that's serious about being good at it even though this seems to be a peaceful backwater village.
-"in Valhalla you get to eat meat every day," again, they use the little details really well to give you a sense of their daily lives
-that guy's hair is TOO SQUARE
-subtly threatening the village with war if he doesn't come; the warriors quietly spreading about the village
-it's taking me forever to watch an episode because I keep stopping to look up maps
-the look that one Jomsviking gives the teenager when he gets called to withdraw
-everyone but Thors and Leif celebrating going to war
-even though he previously got out easily, now Thorfinn's furiously fighting to the point of refusing to stay dead and injuring the other kids
-so Thors is a fighter, a blacksmith (apprentice?) and a medic. Not to mention presumably a farmer. I wonder if all Jomsviking-type professional fighters picked up some field medicine.
-the rectangle of reflected light widening across his face as he unsheathes the blade
-ouch, Thors demonstrating how not to hold a dagger
-No one has any enemies; not saying you should never kill people so much as refusing to just let him stick the label of enemy to shove people into a category of okay to hurt, like killing happens, but you can't just discount it as fine or natural or not important that easily.
-the carving decorating the edges of the otherwise very plain bed
-just standing there with his hand dripping blood and his wife silently coming and wrapping it up
-I love the scenery in this show
-throwing axes at the priest, fun times Uh-oh
-Forcing him to go to war, to have him murdered as soon as he launches ship, and presumably killing or enslaving the innocent village warriors who went with him, that's cold
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Post by bomaye on Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:37 am

Vinland Saga 3

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- "It slipped" Laughing
- And they used the spear throw to swindle Floki a little bit
- OH NO THEY DIDN'T, THEY KILLED HIS HIDDEN DUDE WITH IT
- So if I'm inferring from the intro here, Thors probably does get killed and Thorfinn becomes a member of this guy's crew or tries to kill him in revenge and joins his crew or something like that
- Mom cockblocking Ari
- Poor Ylva
- Mom: "Make sure you bathe on Saturday." 10-Foot Tall Viking: "Yes, Mom."
- Thors is planning to abandon the guys so they don't have to go battle, good guy Thors
- Dohohoho Thorfinn snuck aboard
- "I want to get a look at this troll" as he's spanking Thorfinn
- Ari is impressed with Leif
- That's not how you hold a baby, Thors
- Helga makes an indifferent warrior Thors name the baby, and that's when he started being afraid of battle
- Hrm, is this the assassination squad or just random bandits?
- Assassination squad
- Thors doesn't want to give Thorfinn a sword but is forced to do it ;_;
- Is that a mushroom that turns someone Berserker
- With his bare fucking hands
- Oh don't end the fucking episode there
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Post by bomaye on Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:28 am

Oh, I guess episode 4 of Vinland Saga comes out on the 28th, so we didn't really need to rush it at all either Lurking/sketchy
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Post by Enail on Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:30 pm

Whew, next week's busy for me!
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Post by Enail on Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:58 pm

E3
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-why didn't they come to kill him before now, why's it suddenly important after all this time?
-tense staring match broken by an accidental spear Laughing
-not so accidental after all
-dude boasting and trying to ask Ylva to marry him and she's just like "buh? I just woke up," and then his mom comes with his lunch rofl
-"can you try somewhere else?" to a suitor rofl
-poor random other girl, dude's possibly even less interested in her than Ylva was in him.
-Thors going to fight but trying to make sure no one else in his village does.
-one enormous oar, is this realistic?
-he can't figure out how to say what he wants passed on to Thorfinn, but Helga gets it anyway; they're a good team.
-the guy with his butt in the air Laughing They're all so ill-equipped for this whole thing.
-Stowaway!
-he's so excited to see the sea his dad can't even scold him
-he can still spank him, though Wink
-"Don't stare into the sea at night. It'll pull you in."
-all he says to his wife who's just given birth in a difficult birth is to have a boy next time, he's lucky there was a next time
-making him give his daughter a name
-I like that they made him say he started getting scared of battle from it, even though he was a legendary fighter, instead of just rejecting it out of a belief in human value or something but still being the most fearless badass ever, feels more human
-realizing something's wrong while they're in that narrow strait flanked by cliffs
-the drums of the enemy approaching
-"this is nothing," he says, trembling and sweating
-Thors' slow walk to the chest, and silently, slowly strapping on his sword
-even though they're about to fight for their lives and his son's life, it still matters to him that they don't take killing lightly
-why is he eating a poisonous mushroom??
-Thors slamming onto the deck Shiny/thrilled
-fighting them all bare-handed
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Post by bomaye on Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:11 pm

Enail wrote:E3
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-why is he eating a poisonous mushroom??

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Berserkers. They entered battle in a crazed frenzy where they didn't feel pain, one of the theories was that they ate or drank some kind of hallucinogen (like a mushroom) to enter that state
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Post by Enail on Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:45 pm

Oh, I'd never heard that, cool!
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Post by Enail on Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:47 pm

E4
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-the slow walk to the drumbeat, felling everyone around him with just his fists Shiny/thrilled
-bone twisted the wrong way Ewwww!
-berserker smashing through his own people and his own ship, maybe they shouldn't take the mushrooms until there's some enemy nearby to fight?
-Thors doesn't even move, just two methodical punches to knock berserker out Shiny/thrilled
-contrast with his crew, who panic as soon as the enemy ship pulls up
-Thors only draws his sword once he's back on his own ship directly defending his people
-that leader smell
-Thorfinn shouting taunts at the leader Laughing
-dropping the sail and ducking under for a surprise hit
-when he starts fighting in earnest, everything before this has been so slow and deliberate, and then that sudden speed Shiny/thrilled
-FUCK! HIS SWORD!
-IT WAS PART OF HIS PLAN!!!!
-"a true warrior doesn't need a sword"
-shit, berserker taking Thorfinn hostage, and they never were going to stand down anyway (though I think the leader was actually undecided till then, there was such a "how is this going to play out" tension on both sides)
-all those arrows in him and just stands there trying to hold the leader to the bargain
-Thorfinn running to his dad and just wailing his head off Sad
-holy shit, Ari trying to go for the leader, he's brave but fucking stupid
-the voice acting while Thorfinn's crying in the hold wasn't angry enough for that scary look at the end
-oh fuck, he hid and stayed behind to get revenge, how did no one notice he was gone, there weren't that many of them???
-I feel like they kind of didn't lead up enough to this reaction, they should have showed a little hint more intensity in the kid beforehnd to be brought out here, the fact that he suddenly got super-violent about play-fighting doesn't seem like enough , and that also seemed a touch out of nowhere, and still didn't foreshadow this level of rage (especially when they'd previously shown him as pretty easy-going), given that people's reactions suggest it's not just a normal 'kid's reaction to parent's tragic and unfair death' reaction, they're not quite pulling off the characterisation imo
-they just walk away without even saying a word to him, he's too unimportant, that's fucking brutal
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Post by bomaye on Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:49 pm

E4

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- Oh god, that broken arm x_x
- Thors uppercutting a guy into the water, and then throwing him an oar to float on
- Holy shit, Thors even KO's Bjorn w/ Berserker mushroom in TWO punches instead of the one he's been relying on
- I mean, with this intro, Thors has to be dying here somehow
- He knows he could kill 30 men by himself
- Viking duel Shiny/thrilled
- Oh my god, that Askeladd speed
- Askeladd's breathing heavy already
- Thors baited him into breaking his sword so he could steal his Shiny/thrilled
- Thors doesn't want to fill in front of Thorfinn silent
- Askeladd wants Thors to be their leader? Sure he's not trying to bait him in to kill him?
- Askeladd plays it off as a joke but he was totally serious
- Thors still dictating even with arrows sticking out of him ;_;
- Not even one casualty
- Kill'em all Thorfinn (that kind of rage probably isn't good for a child)
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Post by bomaye on Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:08 am

Vinland Saga 5

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- You figure Floki's gonna massacre Askeladd and friends too
- He can't drink from the barrell-top because it's seawater
- "We're not gonna stay here long" is Askeladd giving Thorfinn a chance to escape?
- I love this whole tripping while running up a hill and surviving in nature thing Thorfinn's going through
- Pillaging a village and trying to keep it quiet so they don't get in trouble for it
- And now Thorfinn sees what battle really looks like
- Little Thorfinn with his Guts Sword
- You know Askeladd knows he's there
- The fucking other guys getting all fired up by Thorfinn "Kill him, kid!" rofl
- Leif's gonna find Thorfinn "no matter how many years it takes", oh boy
- Looks like Ylva's got the Troll genes
- Even fucking whaling with the men
- And working to ignore it Sad
- Thorfinn passed out by a tree clutching his sword like Hundred-Man Guts
- Bjorn almost casually wondering how he's doing, and then just bare-basically talking about who Thors was naive and Thorfinn's too weak to do anything about it (while also mushroom picking, so looking for more Berserker mushrooms?)
- Askeladd's advice is going to save him from the wolf, isn't it
- His dinky sword that Thors gave him doesn't swing him around and he's figuring out how useful it is
- The fucking on-point throw to Arkeladd's head when he looked away at Bjorn Shiny/thrilled
- A promise between warriors
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Post by Enail on Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:03 am

E5
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-they don't even care enough to do anything about the kid when they land
-laughing alone in a stream out of relief for fresh water
-vikings being vikings and Thorfinn realizes it's not what he imagined
-there's a symbol carved on his blade that looks like two little arrows telling you which direction to stab in Laughing
-he can't do it Sad
-oh shit, Askeladd knew he was there
-giving him a fighting tip and then kicking him
-"he just died a normal death" you fucker, Thors was badass
-trying to manage on his own but giving up and coming back for the scraps
-Ylva's freakishly prosaic reaction like "okay, I guess I'm the dad of the family now," and then working herself insanely to be three people and only crying when her mom finally makes her stop
-Thorfinn teaching himself to knife-throw and finally catching a rabbit
-the other vikings mocking him but increasingly rooting for him
-KNIFE THROW
-Even though Askeladd blocked it easily, you can see something changing in how he looks at Thorfinn
-The promise to duel him once he achieves something on the battlefield
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Post by bomaye on Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:13 pm

E6

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- Viking Politics Shiny/thrilled
- Now it's Thorfinn's first up-close look at dead bodies, they're taking us through all the small events that lead him to become a killing machine (or at least that's what the intro looks like he'll become)
- Askeladd making deals with legitimate army to take their posts/raids/pillages
- Oh wow, nevermind, the English are here to fuck them up
- Oh SHIT, Askeladd stabbing through the guy and it almost looked like Thorfinn took the blade
- Thorfinn getting splashed by blood, then makes his first stab and then kill. Slowly doing one thing then the next in his progression
- Crying and screaming and raging after he kills a dude for the first time
- And even saving Askeladd in battle because that's his guy to kill
- Awww dogs
- Old people not giving a shit what they say because they're old
- Eyyy time for Thorfinn to get an English waifu
- AHAHAHA THORFINN GETTING HIS HAIR BRUSHED
- Telling them to run because the pillaging is probably gonna start :/
- The dead look in Thorfinn's eyes when he thinks back to his family and the old lady disappears in the rush
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Post by Enail on Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:53 pm

E6
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-gross, is that an eyeball?
-Thorfinn always skulking around the edges of the group
-They're doing a great job of establishing his relationship with Askeladd, every time they interact you totally feel his hatred growing, the humiliation and rage for being so powerless that he needs the scraps of rescue or sparing him Askeladd throws to him but still being bound to him more tightly by it every time
-kills the soldier in self-defence and then just sits over the body and screams his heart out
-and now he's really fighting and successfully killing grown soldiers,but still screaming the whole time
-oh, he's stopped screaming now (which is probably good since it looks like a few years have passed, he'd have lost his voice if he kept it up). And gotten way more skilled
-using him as a scout. He reacted to Askeladd more like a sullen teenager complaining about having to take out the trash than with the urgent level of hatred like he had before.
-kid's a badass now
-Ethelred the Unready!!
-wakes up in bed in a comfy English countryside with a friendly dog and welcoming people, and he's suuuuper-unimpressed
-oh no, he gave them fleas!
-her son died of just a cold, and it sounds so normal
-he knows enough English to tell them to run
-he doesn't even think of staying or abandoning his mission, he's been with Askeladd's group long enough he's totally bound to them :/
-help a kid, get your people slaughtered Sad  
-the completely lost look on his face when she starts crying
-standing still, watching her and remembering his family while the Vikings run past, and then she's gone, and he joins the fight. Like that life's gone, and even if he sort of knows he hates them and it's wrong and not what he wants, this is his life now; there's a touch of regret but no thought of not keeping on this path because this is the only life there is for him right now.
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