Star Wars: The Force Awakens (split from Entertainment joys)

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Post by Conreezy on Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:59 pm



Holy shit

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Post by Enail on Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:07 pm

Holy shit indeed. I have feelings, but I don't know what they are!
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Post by Conreezy on Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:20 pm

Mine is excitement. So much that I dug up the Force-awful Star Wars fan fiction I wrote when I was a teenager.

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Post by The Wisp on Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:09 pm

Conreezy wrote:

Holy shit

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:36 pm

The Wisp wrote:
Conreezy wrote:

Holy shit

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

I think we had the same reaction. My main purpose in life is to watch that movie.

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Post by Enail on Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:04 pm

Guys, stop being so excited about it! I'm trying so hard not to get my hopes up, because I can't take another disappointment like Episode 1, and you all are not helping!
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Post by Conreezy on Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:25 pm

Enail wrote:Guys, stop being so excited about it! I'm trying so hard not to get my hopes up, because I can't take another disappointment like Episode 1, and you all are not helping!

Does it help that the "Empire" has reportedly been rebranded as The First Order and the rebels are now the Resistance, which implies that the new trilogy is completely shitting on the consequences of Return of the Jedi?

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Post by Enail on Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:06 pm

Uh-oh I'm not sure I like it any better when you are helping!
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Post by WJMorris3 on Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:47 pm

*passing out the Peter Mayhew shaped chocolate chip cookies, although they're a little chewy*

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Post by Gentleman Johnny on Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:43 pm

Well, I will say that so far there's no sign of Gungans, so that's a step up.

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Post by WJMorris3 on Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:53 pm

Gentleman Johnny wrote:Well, I will say that so far there's no sign of Gungans, so that's a step up.
I actually liked Jar Jar Binks.

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Post by bomaye on Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:58 pm

Conreezy wrote:
Enail wrote:Guys, stop being so excited about it! I'm trying so hard not to get my hopes up, because I can't take another disappointment like Episode 1, and you all are not helping!

Does it help that the "Empire" has reportedly been rebranded as The First Order and the rebels are now the Resistance, which implies that the new trilogy is completely shitting on the consequences of Return of the Jedi?

Even in the original Star Wars expanded universe, the Empire didn't actually fall with the destruction of the second Death Star. Their military machine is way too big, it just didn't make sense from a logistical standpoint. Or even from a dark side of the force standpoint. If Palpatine was holding the Empire together with the Dark Side, there's still going to be evil, greedy and corrupt people whom the Empire serves more than a New Republic would.
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Post by Conreezy on Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:49 am

bomaye wrote:
Conreezy wrote:
Enail wrote:Guys, stop being so excited about it! I'm trying so hard not to get my hopes up, because I can't take another disappointment like Episode 1, and you all are not helping!

Does it help that the "Empire" has reportedly been rebranded as The First Order and the rebels are now the Resistance, which implies that the new trilogy is completely shitting on the consequences of Return of the Jedi?

Even in the original Star Wars expanded universe, the Empire didn't actually fall with the destruction of the second Death Star. Their military machine is way too big, it just didn't make sense from a logistical standpoint. Or even from a dark side of the force standpoint. If Palpatine was holding the Empire together with the Dark Side, there's still going to be evil, greedy and corrupt people whom the Empire serves more than a New Republic would.

Very true. Still, they were the Empire and the Rebel Alliance was the Rebel Alliance (and then New Republic).

The new names imply that 30 years after the Rebels strike a major blow on the Empire, the galaxy has a a separate but almost identical fight going on. Maybe the new film takes place in a specific portion of the galaxy where the Empire reorganized itself into something new and is being opposed by a more local Resistance (that's maybe being helped by whatever the Rebels have turned into?)

Otherwise it just seems like the apparent triumph of the good guys in the OT was for nothing.

Sorry to derail.

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Post by reboot on Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:35 am

Could be that the Resistance turned into the New Empire. That happens a lot in the first 30 years after a revolution.

EDIT: And Black Mirror is fabulous
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Post by Gentleman Johnny on Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:34 am

All I want is for the movie to live up to that trailer.

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Post by The Wisp on Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:59 pm

Conreezy wrote:
Very true.  Still, they were the Empire and the Rebel Alliance was the Rebel Alliance (and then New Republic).  

The new names imply that 30 years after the Rebels strike a major blow on the Empire, the galaxy has a a separate but almost identical fight going on.  Maybe the new film takes place in a specific portion of the galaxy where the Empire reorganized itself into something new and is being opposed by a more local Resistance (that's maybe being helped by whatever the Rebels have turned into?)  

Otherwise it just seems like the apparent triumph of the good guys in the OT was for nothing.

One of my one big worries back when I heard that Abrams was directing was that he'd rely too much on nostalgia and sort of remake IV-VI 30 years in the future, and that doesn't assuage those worries. On the other hand, there are many many ways that can work out just fine. I'm still excited and keeping an open mind until I actually see the movie, though.
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Post by bomaye on Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:31 pm

If his Star Trek movies were any indication, and I happen to think they were because they were basically Star Wars movies themselves, his Star Wars movies are going to follow the Star Wars formula for better or for worse
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Post by Enail on Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:51 pm

I'm not much of an Abrams fan, but I think he's definitely better suited to Star Wars than he was to Star Trek, so cautious optimism there? Realistically, I think that it could well be a solid, fun movie in the Star Wars tradition, but it's probably not going to be magic on screen like the originals were. For the most part, I think you need fresh new things for that, with a clean slate to show us something new and without too many expectations to live up to.
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Post by Gentleman Johnny on Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:21 pm

I have a couple of problems with his Trek movies, mostly in how true to the Trek themes they were. The only one I anticipate being an issue is overuse of the prvious trilogy's characters. They're a great side dish but don't let them get in the way of the main course like Nimoy-Spock did in Into Darkness.

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Post by bomaye on Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:07 am

Yep. If you look at the format of his Trek movies, they were basically Star Wars space operas that they were hiding with Trek characters and tropes
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Post by Gman on Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:53 am

Conreezy wrote:

Holy shit

Yup. Summed it up pretty well. I'm not a big star wars fan by any stretch of the imagination, but it's hard not to get excited over a new movie after SOOOO long since the last one Cool

Also, I was sold on this trailer straight from that opening shot of that "sand bike" riding across a wreckage strewn landscape. What impacted me was the sound... the little faint "boom" like sound when the image cuts to black - a well known and simple trick in films, but it's "super effective" on me :-)
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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:44 am

reboot wrote:Could be that the Resistance turned into the New Empire. That happens a lot in the first 30 years after a revolution.

EDIT: And Black Mirror is fabulous

Werel is getting a shout out here for introducing me to that masterpiece of a TV show. It's now my favorite TV show in the history of ever, especially the second episode of the first season, dear lord.

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