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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:11 am

Because I haven't read the books and don't intend to do so in the immediate future: Is the show veering further and further away from the books as the show catches up to the arcs in the books?

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Post by Gentleman Johnny on Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:40 pm

That's yone way of putting it. Another would be that it took a hard right at the beginning of the season and wondered off into the Land Of Do As You Please (V for Vendetta fans? Anyone?) to the point that its got very little to do with what's going on in some parts of the books.
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Post by reboot on Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:21 pm

The books are also not finished yet, so in some of the storylines the plot is past where the books ended. Which makes me wonder how the show might start influencing the books. Will GRRM have to out dismal the show?
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Post by kath on Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:31 am

I definitely think it's a misinformation campaign.

Also it's totally the show is the show and the books are the books now. I sort of think it will dovetail in some ways and do something else completely in others, and I have no way of knowing which will be which.
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Post by Conreezy on Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:33 am

reboot wrote:The books are also not finished yet, so in some of the storylines the plot is past where the books ended. Which makes me wonder how the show might start influencing the books. Will GRRM have to out dismal the show?

I want to stop watching the show, just so I'm not accidentally spoiled (or contaminated) by plot points the show will hit that will more than likely end up in the books.

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Post by KitKat on Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:18 am

A little bit late to the party because of being very very busy when the actual season ran.

I really disliked the show veering away from the books but less for "book-purist"-reasons than personal ones. Since I know the contents of the show are quite triggering sometimes, up until now I could kinda use the books as a "pre-screening" and knowing ahead made it easier to get through the unpleasant bits. And then they dropped Shireen, Sansa and that gross paedophile-abusing-children-scene on us. Oh and Cersei and Jaimes daughter died too in a very obvious and ham-handed way. And Gilly had to be rescued from almost-rape.

I agree with the people who complain about Sansa being more upsetting in that position than Jeyne Poole but it isn't really about that. This season just heaped objectification and sexual violence onto its female characters with pretty much every episode, often very clearly for the advancement of the male characters plotlines. When the camera veered away from Sansa's face to focus on Theon is when I hissed and yelled at the TV in frustration and indignation because HOW DARE YOU. How dare you put Sansa in that position and then not take responsibility for it and look away instead of sticking with her until the end? How fucking dare you prioritize Theon fucking Greyjoy's pain in that situation above hers? I think the reason it got to me so hard is that it's so damn representative of our culture in general, willing to exploit sexual abuse for the titillation and shock value but never willing to take the consequences for it or suffer with the abused, instead expecting them to quietly slink off and process their feelings off-screen. And fuck that noise from the very angry bottom of my heart. Yes, keeping the camera on Sansa's face would have been uncomfortable and painful but guess what, depicting abuse should be uncomfortable. I'm not going to swear on this and others may have an entirely different interpretation but I have pretty hefty feeling about which demographic's feelings you took into account and which you chose to disregard when you decided to go for that angle dear show-makers and none of it speaks to your credit.

I hated how very casually it all was approached in the name of "plot-convenience", especially in the case of Stannis. I haven't re-read the books in a bit but I'm quite certain he even spoke out against the burnings in a "more than half my men are what you call heathens, hell no"-way + all the father-daughter buildup (which were the only times we saw Shireen) which ultimately had very little payoff. So Brienne got her 'revenge' for Renly, was anyone even particularly invested in that anymore? Selyse's change of heart I actually found believable but of course what the entire man-burns-child-causes-wife-to-hang-herself plotline served was to effectively shuffle Stannis family out of sight and out of mind.

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Post by bomaye on Mon May 16, 2016 9:22 pm

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GAME OF THRONES IS GOING SOMEWHERE AGAIN
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Post by Werel on Tue May 17, 2016 4:54 pm

Spoiler:
Yeah, straight to Brienne and Mance Rayder's wedding Lovestruck
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Post by Hirundo Bos on Tue May 17, 2016 5:13 pm

Werel wrote:
Spoiler:
Yeah, straight to Brienne and Mance Rayder's wedding Lovestruck

Spoiler:
Don't you mean that Norwegian guy?
(Sorry for pedantry, but it's our national day today and the one patriotic hair on my body needed an excuse to mention Cool Norwegian Guy on Television)
Also agree with the  Lovestruck
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Post by Werel on Tue May 17, 2016 5:41 pm

Happy Mance Rayder day over there Game of Thrones Discussion - Page 3 D821fe1264fdc6015017cf17ac8a0aa1
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Post by bomaye on Mon May 23, 2016 3:26 am

Spoiler:

HOLD

THE

DOOR
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Post by Andrew Corvero on Mon May 23, 2016 5:32 pm

bomaye wrote:
Spoiler:

HOLD

THE

DOOR

Spoiler:
Poor Hodor.  Crying

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Post by bomaye on Mon May 30, 2016 5:07 am

So me after nearly every story plot ending of this episode

Spoiler:

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Post by bomaye on Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:44 am

Yup, all of that sure happened x_x

I don't know how they submitted the previous episode to the academy and didn't submit anything from this one, the first 20ish mins were fucking INCREDIBLE
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Post by bomaye on Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:31 am

I'm catching up on Season 7 right now.

Whole season has been the A and B characters doing this

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And then a few C characters dying just to make it seem like something's happening when it's mostly just setting up for the main event

S7E3

Spoiler:

"Tell Cersei that I wanted her to know it was me."

Granny Tyrell is the fucking GOAT.

S7E4

Spoiler:

Jaime: Rickon

Dickon: Dickon

Bronn: rofl



10.17 million Americans made this the highest rated GoT episode of all time at the time it came out (surpassed by the next few episodes ofc). I choose to believe it's because of those lines and those lines only. Totally had nothing to do with the D&D (Dothraki and Dragon) having a go at Westoros


S7E5

HOLY SHIT

Spoiler:

ROWBOAT GUY IS BACK

Legit just figured the ending of GoT would be that all the main characters are just ashes blowing in the wind and the people wail "WHO WILL RULE US NOW" and then suddenly the clouds at sea part and Gendry the Kingy in the Dingy majestically rows to shore

I also like how the crew of people going beyond the wall all gets together at the end, sort of like the Fellowship of the Ring except if you knew they were going to fail miserably

TBH I'm half expecting the white walker they bring back to be the reanimated corpse of YOU KNOW NUFFIN girl because that's how lame the showrunners are
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Post by bomaye on Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:08 am

S7E6

Spoiler:

Tormund trying to pound the Hound

This episode is like an hour and 12 minutes long and all of it should be devoted to Tormund and The Hound bullshitting with each other

I'm imagining Sam sitting on that wagon he rode away from the library with, humming the Game of Thrones theme to himself. Seems like a Sam thing to do.

They're fighting a monster bear with fire swords, this is manly as fuck

Not wearing their fur hoods at night in the snow, wouldn't they have frozen to death?

Is it smart to take all three Dragons? The Night King will kill one of them and use it as his undead steed

Tormund's fine guys.

See, told ya.

I can't tell if any actual characters are dying because they're all swarthy bearded men in fur coats

Here it comes

Welp, time for an Undead Steed.

The look of "Well, fuck all of us I guess" on everyone's face when the dragon fucking dies in one hit

Nah, Jon Snow's fine

Told ya

There's no time for Uncle Benjen to hop up onto the horse.

Jon Snow gallops back to the wall half-frozen with 300 wounds on his body and Dany totally gave him the "I'm sucking his dick later" eyes

Hold up, why do the undead zombies have gigantic chains again?
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Post by bomaye on Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:44 am

S7E7

Spoiler:

I've been soft-complaining (or maybe hard-complaining and it just reads soft to me) about how fanservice-y this is, but they gave me Bronn, Podd and Tyrion back together again and the word "cock" was uttered like 5 seconds in so FANSERVICE MISSION ACCOMPLISHED I GUESS

Wait, is Theon the Gollum of this story?

Oh, I guess this is how Theon gets his balls back or something

I wouldn't get on a fucking boat with Theon after that. Even though he won he got his ass kicked.

Heyyyy, they set up Petyr (Where's My) Dickhead. We're actually seeing a major character die (and he was the one guy that I was wondering what the point of him still being alive during the Undead War is)

Ha, Ultra-bitch Cersei is just gonna let them go die with no backup

So Jon and Dany are half-siblings through Rhegarrrrr the Burninator and so we're seeing them do the Jaime and Cersei now?

Oh my god, the Wall Going Down Shiny/thrilled
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Post by bomaye on Mon May 13, 2019 2:14 am

Did me a solid in that second-to-last final episode, GoT

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Dany becoming (probably) the Final Boss after she halo effected her way through the story even to the point that the fanbase were pulling for her despite her poor leadership, petulant attitude when things don't go her way and her penchant for pissing away every victory and advantage she's ever had despite being surrounded by people who told her these things were going to happen.
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