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Re: Politics and Current Events

Post by WJMorris3 on Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:53 pm

Wondering wrote:Canadians denied entry to the US, fingerprinted, and photographed.

After being asked if they were pro or anti Trump.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/20/womens-march-canada-protesters-denied-entry-us?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Facebook
Ugh. There's no good reason for anyone to be denied entry to the United States.

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Post by Wondering on Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:43 pm

There's a bill before the House for the US to pull out of the UN.

I just...I can't even. If you thought Brexit was bad, just wait.

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Re: Politics and Current Events

Post by BasedBuzzed on Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:35 pm

"The American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2017 was introduced on Jan. 3rd. Though opponents are alarmed, versions of this bill have been introduced and rejected for years."

Twitter explainer says this, dunno how soothing that is.

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Post by WJMorris3 on Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:15 pm

Meanwhile, KellyAnne Conway is explaining that the White House is releasing "aLternatIvE factS." Really?

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Post by Wondering on Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:30 am

BasedBuzzed wrote:"The American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2017 was introduced on Jan. 3rd. Though opponents are alarmed, versions of this bill have been introduced and rejected for years."

Twitter explainer says this, dunno how soothing that is.

It's not soothing. Everything the GOP tried and failed at for years, or didn't bother to try, because Obama was president will now be on the table for real.

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Post by reboot on Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:16 am

I marched on Saturday and am hoping that the energy can be maintained over the long slog. If the tea baggers managed to become a force to be reckoned with, Borg we can too.
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Post by BasedBuzzed on Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:10 am

Wondering wrote:
BasedBuzzed wrote:"The American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2017 was introduced on Jan. 3rd. Though opponents are alarmed, versions of this bill have been introduced and rejected for years."

Twitter explainer says this, dunno how soothing that is.

It's not soothing. Everything the GOP tried and failed at for years, or didn't bother to try, because Obama was president will now be on the table for real.

They also did it during the Bush era. Granted, the environment was more hawkish then, but America also went around the U.N. when launching the Iraq War, so that was also a perfect moment to pull out of it: http://www.snopes.com/us-pulling-out-of-un/

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Re: Politics and Current Events

Post by Enail on Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:02 pm

Borg??!
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Re: Politics and Current Events

Post by reboot on Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:59 pm

reboot wrote:I marched on Saturday and am hoping that the energy can be maintained over the long slog. If the tea baggers managed to become a force to be reckoned with, Borg we can too.

Enail wrote:Borg??!

I have no idea how autocorrect got "Borg" from "we"  rofl
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Re: Politics and Current Events

Post by Enail on Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:10 pm

We are Borg?
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Re: Politics and Current Events

Post by reboot on Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:25 pm

Enail wrote:We are Borg?

I have no idea what that extra word was supposed to be. Maybe the hive mind overtook my tablet  Smile
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Post by Enail on Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:08 pm

I was suggesting that the tablet was equating "we" with the Borg collective Razz
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Re: Politics and Current Events

Post by reboot on Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:25 pm

Enail wrote:I was suggesting that the tablet was equating "we" with the Borg collective Razz
And that makes it my favorite autocorrect fail ever  Grin
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Post by Wondering on Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:21 am

BasedBuzzed wrote:
Wondering wrote:
BasedBuzzed wrote:"The American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2017 was introduced on Jan. 3rd. Though opponents are alarmed, versions of this bill have been introduced and rejected for years."

Twitter explainer says this, dunno how soothing that is.

It's not soothing. Everything the GOP tried and failed at for years, or didn't bother to try, because Obama was president will now be on the table for real.

They also did it during the Bush era. Granted, the environment was more hawkish then, but America also went around the U.N. when launching the Iraq War, so that was also a perfect moment to pull out of it: http://www.snopes.com/us-pulling-out-of-un/

You know, I hear this a lot. This comparison of Trump to Bush Jr. Statements like, "Well, this is just like when Bush was president."

Bluntly, I find such statements incredibly naive. Trump is not Bush. He is no one that went before him as president. Thinking that things can get no worse under Trump than they did under Bush is setting yourself up for a world of hurt. This man is not a president. He is a demagogue.

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Re: Politics and Current Events

Post by WJMorris3 on Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:02 pm

Is it too early to refer to Sean Spicer as the head of the Ministry of Truth?

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Re: Politics and Current Events

Post by Wondering on Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:16 pm

No.

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Post by WJMorris3 on Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:39 pm

Wondering wrote:No.
You're right. I shouldn't be treating anyone like they're an Orwellian figure.

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Post by Wondering on Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:42 pm

Oh, I meant it's not too early. Go for it. True Facts!

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Re: Politics and Current Events

Post by reboot on Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:49 pm

Once the doublespeak has become policy, no holds barred

And I am debating moving to Poland. My family there is scared and forming self defense militias. We remember Russian rule all too well. I think I am tempted because I am a person who has struggled with rage my whole life and an existential crisis for my kind of home is possibly my best channel.

But can I leave my clients, especially now? I wish there was a free lunch
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Re: Politics and Current Events

Post by Wondering on Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:19 am

I don't know where we would move. Both my husband's family and mine have been here since Revolutionary times (barring my one Norwegian ancestor from the 1880s and one Irish ancestor from the potato famine days), so it's not like we have claim to move anywhere else. And getting Canadian resident status so that we could get healthcare is really hard.

What we need is healthcare. I have been thinking about moving semi-seriously, but I don't know who would take us.

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Re: Politics and Current Events

Post by reboot on Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:35 am

Be on the lookout for aScientists March near you. I know Portland, Chicago, Seattle, and the Bay Area are holding them. Other cities will likely join
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Re: Politics and Current Events

Post by WJMorris3 on Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:44 pm

Trump just signed an executive order purporting to keep "radical Islamic terrorism" out of the United States.

We are a nation of immigrants. There are no acceptable reasons to exclude someone from entering the United States.

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Re: Politics and Current Events

Post by Wondering on Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:58 pm

We are a nation of immigrants who slaughtered, displaced, and forcibly relocated what remained of the indigenous population. Let's not forget that part of the story.

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Post by WJMorris3 on Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:03 pm

Wondering wrote:We are a nation of immigrants who slaughtered, displaced, and forcibly relocated what remained of the indigenous population. Let's not forget that part of the story.
Fair enough. Forgot that part.

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Re: Politics and Current Events

Post by reboot on Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:03 pm

What is notable is the countries not on his list, namely Saudi Arabia, Egypt and UAE, sources of a goodly number of high ranking al Qaeda and ISIS leaders and followers. Guess which countries he has business interests with: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-immigration-ban-conflict-of-interest/
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