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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by Enail on Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:10 pm

E28:

-oh god that wide-eyed unblinking titan saying 'welcome back' Shudder
-yikes, was the whole town titanified (and then used as cannonballs?)
-really want to know what the deal is with Ymir
-riding around the middle of nowhere in the dead of night waiting for titans to sneak up really would make a person go crazy
-Hanji tried fear on the priest, Levi's going with guilt.
-She gives Sasha a potato for delivering the message rofl Do all the commanding officers just keep them in their pockets like dog treats for Sasha??
-the titan using its face to try and smash the door open Laughing
-oh boy, hairy titan can climb walls
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by Enail on Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:59 pm

E29:

-The titan pulling the other one's ear off while laughing like a baby playing, oh god, are those little ones made from babies in the village?!  No
-Ymir doth protest too much
-Reiner is waaay off about the tone of that joking, that's not going to lighten any moods or get anyone's mind off the village.
-Too small to tell but I think the writing was celtic-y runes? Which fits with the name Ymir (or maybe Hebrew, but that seems unlikely unless we're going biblical, and this show isn't showing too many signs of that direction, other than the priests)
-Nooo, don't open the next door!
-CARRYING THE TITAN TO THE FUCKING WINDOW Shiny/thrilled
-Gotta marry her rofl
-That girl is wayyy too timid for someone who's fought titans.
-Nanaba being ripped apart while screaming for her father to stop  Sad
-That crazy look on Ymir's face when she says she's going to fight with the knife
-LEAPING OFF THE TOWER WITH A KNIFE AS THE DAWN FINALLY BREAKS WHAT A FUCKING BADASS MOVE
-TITAAAAAAN

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- Also Also it was kind of occurring to me... if normal people can be turned into Titans, then maybe the Titans in the wall are the people who find things out they shouldn't and then get disappeared. There was that one tl;dr story in the last episode of Season 1 with the commercial eye-catcher where a digger discovered that the walls run under the floor too, and he disappeared eventually

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Oh shit....  

But the titans we've been seeing that are presumably made from villagers seem really messed up compared to the regular titans, as if it was still experimental or done in a hurry or something, whereas the titan we saw in the wall looked like one of the giant ones, which have been pretty perfectly formed other than not having skin. It suggests either it's someone different and less skilled making the villager ones or else they're pushing their limits in some way compared to the previously made ones, maybe in developing ones that can move without sunlight or else trying to produce large numbers all at once?.
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by bomaye on Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:21 am

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I'm wondering if it's the special/human titans themselves that can form them. Beast Titan was just stopping by and needed a quick distraction force, flash-created them somehow. Or maybe that's his power.

I also sort of get the feeling that the Beast Titan is something different, it didn't seem affiliated with the conspiracy/Colossal/Armored Titans.
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by Enail on Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:55 pm

bomaye wrote:
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I also sort of get the feeling that the Beast Titan is something different, it didn't seem affiliated with the conspiracy/Colossal/Armored Titans.

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It's affiliated with someone/thing, I think. I don't remember the wording, but I have a sense the way he talked about taking the gear back to study kind of made it sound like he has a research lab and other people working with him.

So, so far, we've got:
-Regular Titans, who don't think much, are functional but not that powerful, and will take orders either from a leader or possibly just from any smarter titan type who happens to be around.
-Deviant Titans, Regular Titans who don't seem that interested in eating people and may have some intelligence or other goals
-Human Titans, who can turn at will to and from titans, and who seem to be all either affiliated with the conspiracy or with whatever Eren's dad was up to, which may be connected to the conspiracy or trying to work against it.
-Colossal/Armoured Titans, who may or may not be Human Titans, think independently but we don't know if it's up to human levels, and are probably? taking orders from the conspiracy leaders
-Flash Titans, who are created directly from people, are not well-made and sometimes not functional, not too smart, but seem to retain some memory/personality of the person. May attack other Titans.
-Beast Titan, super-smart, can command or create Flash Titans, may be with the conspiracy or part of some other group

And then groups:
-Regular Humans, trying to not die
-Eren's Dad, studying/developing doing something related to Titans and especially Human Titans, may be involved with or working against the Conspiracy
-The Conspiracy, priests protecting the secret of the wall from within, at least one group outside the wall that includes Human Titans and Colossal/Armoured Titans, and at least some communication between the two groups, through Human Titan infiltrators and possibly other means. Definitely knows a lot about Titans and wants to empower Titans/harm humans, may or may not want Titans to take over entirely. The priests at least don't actually seem pro-harming humans, although they prioritize protecting their secrets and possibly other goals over humans, and they may not know the full story.
-possibly Ymir's group, which could be a separate group of titans and titan infiltrators whose motive is mysterious but seems to involve some level of investment in humans or secrets involving humans/Human Titanss who don't know it (eg. protecting Christa for reasons Christa doesn't seem aware of). Could be/be affiliated with either the Conspiracy or Eren's Dad.
-Beast Titan, like Ymir's group, motives unknown and could be/be affiliated with another group. Wants to study humans and has some interest in killing them but that may be secondary to another goal.

Is that all ? Man, there's a lot to keep track of.
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by bomaye on Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:24 pm

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Also, the Nobles of the Inner Wall, who are probably just concerned with maintaining their power. Maybe hooked up with the Priesthood.

E30

Spoiler:

- Hrm so both Ymir and Christa are illegit Noble children :/
- Christa wants Ymir to be her friend ;_;
- "Revenge." I wonder if the Titan Conspiracy is an attempt to get back at the Nobles or remove them from power. Ymir's heavy on revenge and Annie Leonhart also had flashbacks that made it seem like she was out to get someone back
- Ah shiiiii, Ymir Titan'd and took Daz back down.
- And then revealed her thing to Christa... but Christa acts like she's never seen it before?
- Thisssss Titan-fight action
- DID YMIR EAT REINER'S FRIEND WTF
- TOWER FALL, MAXIMUM THRILL[/Satou]
- Christa running to her friend, about to get eaten ;_;
- MIKASAAAAA
- God, the Scout Corps jumping on those Titans is so badass
- EREN YOU NERD
- His "first" kill. rofl
- "Historia" and makes Ymir smile as she's going Sad

It's only 12 eps this time, so I think this is the halfway point
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by Enail on Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:00 pm

E30:

-I wish this show would use some kind of cue to let us know when it's a flashback, it always takes me a while to catch on, and there's been a few times I've thought something was a flashback and it wasn't.
-Ymir's hint that she's some sort of secret bastard child - the way she said it was pretty unclear, what if she didn't mean she's the child of a noble, but of a titan? That could be just metaphorical, though, rather than a sign that titans can reproduce, so maybe she's not actually an illegitimate child at all.
-Ymir making all these dark and mysterious hints about her motives and Christa just takes it as "you want to be friends with me! Shiny/thrilled"
-I don't think she actually revealed her secret, Bomaye, just got Christa to promise that when the secret's out, Christa has to start living for herself.
-she makes.a weird, squat titan with an enormous head. Not the badass look I was expecting, more like an angry goblin. Shrug
-Damn, she's been out there being a titan and eating people, too No
-"TEAR IT DOOWWWN" I almost thought Christa was going to go titan just out of sheer emotion there
-Conny yelling at Titan!Ymir to go finish the job, ugly Laughing
-Yearrrhhggh that scene of her being ripped apart
-Christa running right into the titans to call to Ymir
-Mikasa's badass entry just at the right moment  Lovestruck  
-Wow, Eren's only just couting his first kill now?! He's way behind! I guess his kills when he's a titan don't count, he might not really even remember them.
-Why didn't her arm and leg regenerate?? I guess because she's dying Sad
-Her name is Historia!? Werel should keep watching this show just to get to that name rofl
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by bomaye on Sun May 07, 2017 1:57 am

31

Spoiler:

- The calm before the... storm?
- Reiner's really starting to lose it
- "We're so close." o.O
- No hole anywhere
- Wh... what? Reiner must have a death-wish to say something like that, can't be true
- Uhhhh.... no way are they the Armored and Colossal
- They're from the same place as Annie? From the Annie flashback, that place seems like it got wiped out... oh shit....
- Writing in Annie's hand where Eren was, Reiner was the one who found out o.O
- Oh my god the flag breaks, the sun shines down, the hands shaking on the blades
- HIS ARM IS HEALING
- SETTLE IT?!
- MIKASA HOLY FUCK
- DIDN'T EVEN FUCKING FLINCH, JUST SLASHES REINER AND CUT BERTHOLDT'S THROAT
- THEY'RE TRANSFORMING
- IT'S GOING DOWN
- IT'S FUCKING THEM
- "YOU DAMN TRAITORS." IT'S GOING DOWN
- NO FUCK OFF DON'T END THERKJLKFJKLSJFLSJFLSLK
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by Enail on Sun May 07, 2017 12:52 pm

E31:

-Reiner calling his badass carry-the-fucking-titan-up-the-stairs-and-throw-it-out-the-goddamn-window moment pathetic?! Dude! And everyone else just kind of looking at him and not saying anything while he talks about his spirit breaking Sad
-Returning to hometowns is not something that's really worked out well for anyone so far No
-Come on, put the pieces together, people!!!
-WHHHHAAAT???? They're titans too?! Is there anyone here who isn't a titan??
-Why doesn't Mikasa remember anything about 3 people in her group in training? She's holding something back. Maybe whatever she was going to say earlier (later) that got interrupted.
-The dead silence from the entire group while Reiner's confessing
-Mikasa's ready to go before he's even finished talking, what a stone-cold scary badass. And just right for the throat without hesitating or even giving a light. Like, this girl has thought about killing every single person there other than Eren and possibly Armin (nah, she's totally thought about Armin), and is 100% ready to do it at any fucking time, whether they're secretly titans or not. She'd go from eating cereal to 'everyone in the room except for Eren is dead' before her cereal got soggy.
-Nooo, Reiner, you idiot, how are you going to marry Christa now?
-WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYONE TRYING TO DESTROY HUMANITY??
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by bomaye on Sun May 07, 2017 1:23 pm

GOD

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That reveal was so casual. Like "oh, come on, man, that's not even funny. I mean, Bertholdt barely registers as a character no way" And then next thing you know Mikasa's cutting people down like it's nothing to her (though I guess they did kill Eren's parents/ruin her second chance at life) and HOLY SHIT THE STUFF IN THE INTRO JUST HAPPENED OUT OF NOWHERE WHAT

Was simultaneous watching with two other people, our mIRC text was like 20 lines of some variation of "OH MY FUCKING" "FUCK "HOLY FUCK"

Also

Spoiler:

It sure puts an interesting twist on Reiner discovering that Ymir can read old-style human lettering and his almost angry reaction to it.

And Ymir apparently eating their third friend
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by Enail on Sun May 07, 2017 2:38 pm

bomaye wrote:GOD

Spoiler:

That reveal was so casual. Like "oh, come on, man, that's not even funny. I mean, Bertholdt barely registers as a character no way" And then next thing you know Mikasa's cutting people down like it's nothing to her (though I guess they did kill Eren's parents/ruin her second chance at life) and HOLY SHIT THE STUFF IN THE INTRO JUST HAPPENED OUT OF NOWHERE WHAT

Spoiler:
Yeah, even while it's becoming clear, you're still thinking Reiner's just having a breakdown or maybe there's something in what he's saying but he doesn't really mean they're the traitors, because it's just too casual. I don't think Mikasa was thinking about revenge or anything, she just processed that what they're saying=threat to Eren and was 100% ready for murder based solely on that. They did all have warning that Reiner and Bertholdt might be titans even though the audience didn't, so she was probably already on high threat alert and was clearly listening intently to that conversation, so she probably was prepared for where things would go. She seems to basically process the world in terms of 1. is it a threat to Eren? Kill it. 2. is it my job/a good idea otherwise to kill it or kick its ass? kill it/kick its ass. 3. Any other considerations. So she doesn't go through the "how is this possible?" and "they were my team" and all that that everyone else has to go through to arrive at "nooo, I have to fight this person isn't there another way", she's just naturally making the "do I kill it" calculation all the time.


Also

Spoiler:

It sure puts an interesting twist on Reiner discovering that Ymir can read old-style human lettering and his almost angry reaction to it.

And Ymir apparently eating their third friend

Spoiler:
Yes! It definitely suggests that there's at least two groups of titans that are pretty separate, since Ymir has knowledge (and that talking titan in the side story suggested that she has a lot of knowledge or is important in some way) that Annie/Reiner/Bertholdt don't. But we don't know what happened when Ymir ate their friend; were they already titans then, or were they turned titans as part of the attack on their town? Which would make it seem like Ymir was sort of part of the group that directs the 3 traitors, but either had already gone rogue or was senior to them and went rogue (or semi-rogue? we don't have clear confirmation that she's not currently involved with the titan plot at all) after that point, maybe even because of whatever happened there.
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by bomaye on Sun May 07, 2017 2:59 pm

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Ymir's from inside the centermost walls, whereas it kind of sounds like Reiner and pals are from outside the wall. Ymir might be more highly educated just from being an illegit noble and Reiner might have been like "you're one of THEM?" Reiner/Annie/Bertholdt's "village" is gone, but they were the ones who originally took down the first wall, so their village was probably far outside Titan territory. Annie's flashback sort of felt like they were told to take revenge for whatever happened.

Then, Reiner seemed convinced that they didn't even have to bust down the wall anymore if Eren came with them.

Theory: The humans inside the wall did this to everyone outside the wall on purpose. The walls were already pre-built. Some humans survived/mutated as powerful Titans and now they're likewise wiping out the rest of humanity. Reiner and pals want Eren because he's the key to turning the remaining humans into Titans and ending humanity the easy way.

And

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0:15, check out who's facing forward and who's turning their backs silent
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by Enail on Sun May 07, 2017 3:53 pm

bomaye wrote:
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Ymir's from inside the centermost walls, whereas it kind of sounds like Reiner and pals are from outside the wall. Ymir might be more highly educated just from being an illegit noble and Reiner might have been like "you're one of THEM?" Reiner/Annie/Bertholdt's "village" is gone, but they were the ones who originally took down the first wall, so their village was probably far outside Titan territory. Annie's flashback sort of felt like they were told to take revenge for whatever happened.

Then, Reiner seemed convinced that they didn't even have to bust down the wall anymore if Eren came with them.

Theory: The humans inside the wall did this to everyone outside the wall on purpose. The walls were already pre-built. Some humans survived/mutated as powerful Titans and now they're likewise wiping out the rest of humanity. Reiner and pals want Eren because he's the key to turning the remaining humans into Titans and ending humanity the easy way.

Spoiler:
Hmm, interesting.  Why do you suppose the walls would have been built to begin with in that scenario, though? Maybe inter-human war to the brink of the destruction of humanity, and both wall and the titans were ways to try and survive that. And what benefit would it be to turn the outsiders into titans, unless just as test subjects in an experiment to advance beyond human strength that the insiders weren't ready to try on themselves yet?

Also, the outside-the-wall titans know about Ymir as someone important, so there must be some kind of communication or knowledge/history shared between the outside and inside. And Ymir and Reiner&co's past encounter - I've been assuming Reiner & co were part of a titan attack on an outer wall village in order to create a chaotic situation where they can infiltrate without being noticed, but what would Ymir be doing there? That can't be just coincidence.


And

Spoiler:



0:15, check out who's facing forward and who's turning their backs silent

Spoiler:
They're silhouettes, how can you tell??
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by bomaye on Mon May 08, 2017 2:41 am

Enail wrote:
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Hmm, interesting.  Why do you suppose the walls would have been built to begin with in that scenario, though? Maybe inter-human war to the brink of the destruction of humanity, and both wall and the titans were ways to try and survive that. And what benefit would it be to turn the outsiders into titans, unless just as test subjects in an experiment to advance beyond human strength that the insiders weren't ready to try on themselves yet?

Spoiler:

The Walls are Noah's Ark, except instead of animals it's for whatever Kingdom that is, it's people. The Titans are the flood, unleashed on the Earth to get rid of everyone else (they only eat humans and not animals, so everything else is going to be fine). The remaining humans let into the outer walls are a buffer for the original kingdom in the center.


Spoiler:

Also, the outside-the-wall titans know about Ymir as someone important, so there must be some kind of communication or knowledge/history shared between the outside and inside. And Ymir and Reiner&co's past encounter - I've been assuming Reiner & co were part of a titan attack on an outer wall village in order to create a chaotic situation where they can infiltrate without being noticed, but what would Ymir be doing there? That can't be just coincidence.

Spoiler:

Mmmm, yeah, I think Ymir wouldn't have gotten out of the wall until she joined that military school or whatever it was called. What was she doing outside of the inner walls?




And

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0:15, check out who's facing forward and who's turning their backs silent

Spoiler:
They're silhouettes, how can you tell??
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Not the silhouettes, the faces flashing by
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by Enail on Mon May 08, 2017 12:40 pm

bomaye wrote:
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The Walls are Noah's Ark, except instead of animals it's for whatever Kingdom that is, it's people. The Titans are the flood, unleashed on the Earth to get rid of everyone else (they only eat humans and not animals, so everything else is going to be fine). The remaining humans let into the outer walls are a buffer for the original kingdom in the center.

Spoiler:
Yeah, I could see that. Though, why are there outside Titans with human intelligence/can turn into humans trying to break in, seems too weak if it was just accidental that some of the outside titans they created turned out to be smarter and started planning against the inside humans.


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Not the silhouettes, the faces flashing by

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Laughing Oops. Who was the blond guy facing forward that presumably isn't Reiner?
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by bomaye on Mon May 08, 2017 12:50 pm

Enail wrote:
bomaye wrote:
Spoiler:

The Walls are Noah's Ark, except instead of animals it's for whatever Kingdom that is, it's people. The Titans are the flood, unleashed on the Earth to get rid of everyone else (they only eat humans and not animals, so everything else is going to be fine). The remaining humans let into the outer walls are a buffer for the original kingdom in the center.

Spoiler:
Yeah, I could see that. Though, why are there outside Titans with human intelligence/can turn into humans trying to break in, seems too weak if it was just accidental that some of the outside titans they created turned out to be smarter and started planning against the inside humans.

Spoiler:

It depends how they're made, and if anyone else managed to hold out long enough to study them, I guess. Reiner did say that they "didn't even need to destroy the walls" if Eren went with them, in Reiner's state of mind I took that to mean that Eren is somehow so important to the Titan cause that he can override whatever the aims of bashing their way further inland was. Maybe retroactively creating enough of the Titan formula to turn the rest of the humans into Titans?



Spoiler:

Not the silhouettes, the faces flashing by

Spoiler:
Laughing Oops. Who was the blond guy facing forward that presumably isn't Reiner?

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Remember whatsisname that coward guy who wanted to transfer as far in as possible but then ended up not doing it?
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by Enail on Mon May 08, 2017 1:40 pm

bomaye wrote:
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It depends how they're made, and if anyone else managed to hold out long enough to study them, I guess. Reiner did say that they "didn't even need to destroy the walls" if Eren went with them, in Reiner's state of mind I took that to mean that Eren is somehow so important to the Titan cause that he can override whatever the aims of bashing their way further inland was. Maybe retroactively creating enough of the Titan formula to turn the rest of the humans into Titans?

Spoiler:
No, I mean, how are there titans outside smart enough to have a titan cause, is it just that some people stay sentient enough when made titans that they were able to start plotting against the insiders, which seems like a pretty weak reason, or was there something else going on in the turn-outsiders-into-titans plan from the start, or is there an outside group of humans working against the inside humans and creating or empowering smart titans themselves?


Spoiler:
Laughing Oops. Who was the blond guy facing forward that presumably isn't Reiner?

Spoiler:

Remember whatsisname that coward guy who wanted to transfer as far in as possible but then ended up not doing it?

Spoiler:
Crap, I merged him with Reiner in my mind. Didn't he die in the first attack? Or when was the last time we even saw him?? If he's going to be important enough this season that he deserves to get a spot in the intro where Mikasa and Armin didn't, they really need to start reminding us of him. Uh-oh
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by bomaye on Mon May 08, 2017 2:44 pm

Enail wrote:
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No, I mean, how are there titans outside smart enough to have a titan cause, is it just that some people stay sentient enough when made titans that they were able to start plotting against the insiders, which seems like a pretty weak reason, or was there something else going on in the turn-outsiders-into-titans plan from the start, or is there an outside group of humans working against the inside humans and creating or empowering smart titans themselves?

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It might be revenge. The sentient Titans seem to be a huge, rare minority. We've seen a few normal Titans almost retain small bits of their sentience. The Beast Titan fully retains his, all the others either partly or mostly seem to retain enough of themselves to direct themselves at their goals.

If Reiner, Annie and Bertholdt lived in a village way back in the day, and the Titaning took hold of them, that's kind of it. Almost everyone they've ever known has become a mindless thing that can't be turned back, and even if they could, they'd wander away and you may never find them again. I also seem to remember from Annie's flashback that someone kind of told her to take revenge for something that happened.

Alternatively, the Beast Titan seems scientifically intelligent. Maybe the rest of them became Titans "naturally" whereas Eren's an artificial one, and if they can figure out how to reverse engineer him, they can either make everyone Titans or cure Titan-ing and the inner wall guys lose all of their power, which seems to be heavily built on the Titans. They're in charge because they're inside the walls and no one can go anywhere else, and the walls are made of Titans, and they seem to know the secrets of the walls.



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Crap, I merged him with Reiner in my mind. Didn't he die in the first attack? Or when was the last time we even saw him?? If he's going to be important enough this season that he deserves to get a spot in the intro where Mikasa and Armin didn't, they really need to start reminding us of him. Uh-oh

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His name is Jean, and I have no idea where he even is in the story right now rofl
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by Enail on Mon May 08, 2017 4:15 pm

bomaye wrote:
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If Reiner, Annie and Bertholdt lived in a village way back in the day, and the Titaning took hold of them, that's kind of it. Almost everyone they've ever known has become a mindless thing that can't be turned back, and even if they could, they'd wander away and you may never find them again. I also seem to remember from Annie's flashback that someone kind of told her to take revenge for something that happened.

Spoiler:
So you're thinking that the inner people Titaned a village a few years ago, turning at least some of them into intelligent ones, who then joined with previously existing outer Titans to get revenge on the inner people? But why would the inner people want to turn people inside the walls, even the outer walls, into titans? Or if the village was outside the walls, how was there a human village still left outside the walls?  

My sense was that Connie's village was done by an outside force, either Beast Titan or the main outside Titan/traitors group, not the inner conspiracy, which would make sense with the fact that those Titans were way less well-made than Annie/Reiner/Bertholdt or even than regular Titans, if they're the first Titans made by outside group.

Spoiler:

Alternatively, the Beast Titan seems scientifically intelligent. Maybe the rest of them became Titans "naturally" whereas Eren's an artificial one, and if they can figure out how to reverse engineer him, they can either make everyone Titans or cure Titan-ing and the inner wall guys lose all of their power, which seems to be heavily built on the Titans. They're in charge because they're inside the walls and no one can go anywhere else, and the walls are made of Titans, and they seem to know the secrets of the walls.

Spoiler:
Are you rethinking the idea that Beast Titan is a separate group from the outer Titans, then?
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by bomaye on Mon May 08, 2017 4:52 pm

Enail wrote:
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So you're thinking that the inner people Titaned a village a few years ago, turning at least some of them into intelligent ones, who then joined with previously existing outer Titans to get revenge on the inner people? But why would the inner people want to turn people inside the walls, even the outer walls, into titans? Or if the village was outside the walls, how was there a human village still left outside the walls?

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No, I think the inner people Titan'ed the world. Or at least the continent. They set the Titans loose, either accidentally or maybe on purpose. It's a virus or a thing that spread out or a thing they've produced out of prisoners/undesireables. In my mind, there is no way they could build walls and structures of that scale while the Titan horde was doing its thing. So I think the walls were put in place first.


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My sense was that Connie's village was done by an outside force, either Beast Titan or the main outside Titan/traitors group, not the inner conspiracy, which would make sense with the fact that those Titans were way less well-made than Annie/Reiner/Bertholdt or even than regular Titans, if they're the first Titans made by outside group.

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I probably agree with that idea too. If they were so co-ordinated, you'd think Bertholdt and Reiner wouldn't have risked their lives being present for that.


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Are you rethinking the idea that Beast Titan is a separate group from the outer Titans, then?

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Hrmmmm, maybe not.

Annie, Reiner and Bertholdt had co-ordination and tactics when they attacked the Scout Corps together  and they were very separated (Annie was already stationed in the inner walls if I remember right) even while having a strategy, whereas with this incident, Reiner and Bertholdt's lives were legitimately put in danger by the Beast Titan, enough to cause Reiner to freak out enough that he went and revealed himself.

The Beast Titan seems to be able to make Titans artificially/normally, though. I guess if they wanted to make Titans, they'd go after him and see what he was about.

Now I've just talked myself into not knowing anything again Grin

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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by Enail on Mon May 08, 2017 5:35 pm

bomaye wrote:
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No, I think the inner people Titan'ed the world. Or at least the continent. They set the Titans loose, either accidentally or maybe on purpose. It's a virus or a thing that spread out or a thing they've produced out of prisoners/undesireables. In my mind, there is no way they could build walls and structures of that scale while the Titan horde was doing its thing. So I think the walls were put in place first.

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Yeah, I know, but what I mean is after they built walls and Titaned the world a long time ago, someone recently Titan'ed Annie/Reinhart/Bertholdt's village. (Which is presumably what set off the big attack on the walls, because it's seemingly the first time there's been titans with the power to do that.) Those guys can't have been created back when the original world-Titanation happened, because we know titan-humans age, b/c Eren has.

But why would the inner people want to create titans inside the walls now, after all that time? Unless they've decided that Titaning the world really hasn't worked out that well for the inner people and now they wanted to create stronger Titans to defeat the outer Titans, but it backfired and set them off on revenge? Outer Titans have a more obvious motive for doing it now, but if it was them, that means they're capable of making powerful Titans, which suggests it's not them who Titaned Connie's village. Which suggests Beast Titan is operating on his own.
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by bomaye on Mon May 08, 2017 7:27 pm

Enail wrote:
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Yeah, I know, but what I mean is after they built walls and Titaned the world a long time ago, someone recently Titan'ed Annie/Reinhart/Bertholdt's village. (Which is presumably what set off the big attack on the walls, because it's seemingly the first time there's been titans with the power to do that.) Those guys can't have been created back when the original world-Titanation happened, because we know titan-humans age, b/c Eren has.

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Oh right, the aging thing  Headsmack

Might've been massacred by people instead of Titans or abandoned by the inner walls on purpose or something. Could be a foil for Eren, who wants to kill all the Titans, for his big bads to be so mad at humans they also want to kill them all for whatever they've done.


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But why would the inner people want to create titans inside the walls now, after all that time? Unless they've decided that Titaning the world really hasn't worked out that well for the inner people and now they wanted to create stronger Titans to defeat the outer Titans, but it backfired and set them off on revenge? Outer Titans have a more obvious motive for doing it now, but if it was them, that means they're capable of making powerful Titans, which suggests it's not them who Titaned Connie's village. Which suggests Beast Titan is operating on his own.

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I think they didn't. I remember the scene where Pixis was playing chess with that inner wall noble and he didn't seem to have a care in the world. The Inner-Wall Nobles/Church probably feel safe and secure knowing they're in the deepest areas with the strongest soldiers and they still have a lot of wall territory between them and the outside. What they've done was enough, they didn't need to go any further. Ymir being an old-style/basic Titan from inside the walls is maybe a tip-off at the stagnation.

Someone else went further at least in Eren's dad, so making more powerful Titans might be a strong motivation for the angry Titan Conspiracy.
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by bomaye on Sat May 13, 2017 7:13 pm

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- God, Eren told them to their faces that he was going to kill the shit out of them
- I guess Mikasa even flinched trying to kill them :/
- It got "Someone else." Was Levi there too? silent
- GOD, charging the Colossal Titan is just spectacular
- Burning steam defense
- Connie doesn't know/won't accept silent
- Yeah, Eren getting the shit kicked out him is no surprise
- Dat hatred for Reiner and Bertholdt
- Flashback was like "Eh, why we doin this?" but then Mikasa and Annie were about to throw down and it's like "NO DON'T CUT AWAY FROM THAT"
- Eren using MMA holds to crack the armour, awwww riiiiight
- TORE OFF REINER'S ARM
- Wasn't the guy with the mustache the one that saved Eren when he was a kid?
- Scout Captain-chwan blushing at Titan-Eren rofl
- Oh shiii, Reiner breaking off his own armour just to increase his speed/abilities
- Dat Mikasa leg cut, god damn
- "Why's he yelling like that, there's no Titans around." GUYS, THE BIG ON UP ABOVE
- OH GOD COLOSSAL IS TIPPING OVER
- NO FUCK OFF DON'T END THERE *THROWS MONITOR*
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by Enail on Mon May 15, 2017 1:09 pm

E32:

-Holy shit, that immediate, brutal double throat-slashing was Mikasa holding back?!?  Shocked  Shudder
-what happens if you eat a titan in human form? Isn't that what got Eren explosively titaning out from another titan's stomach? Is eating Ymir really a good idea for a snack, Reiner??
-the 3D titan punches look suuuuper-weird in slow-motion.
-Reiner has such a smug smile on his titan-face
-Mikasa desperately trying to break through the armour while Eren builds his rage remembering what the titans did.
-Annie making sure he learns how to handle opponents stronger than him. That seems like more than just playing the part of being a fellow trainee.  Side-eye
-Annie and Mikasa fighting Shiny/thrilled
-NOOOO, WE NEED TO SEE THAT!! Don't worry about the monster-power Titan about to destroy you, Eren, flashback more!!
-"You should have thought twice before teaching me how to fight!" YESS, EREN!
-Hanji starts blushing when Eren-titan takes her orders. Does... she actually have a thing for titans? Uh-oh
-YESS! MIKASA! GET THOSE KNEES!
-HOLY SHIT Reiner dragging Eren along the ground, that dude is a fucking monster. I guess he carries titans around when in human form, why not as a titan, but damn.
-Armin always puts the pieces together a little before anyone else.
-Oh shit here comes Colossal

bomaye wrote:
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- It got "Someone else." Was Levi there too? silent

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I thought we got a brief shot of the person? If I'm not making that up, I thought it looked like lighter hair than Levi.


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- Wasn't the guy with the mustache the one that saved Eren when he was a kid?

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Yep. Must be particularly shocking to see a titan version of someone you knew as a little kid.

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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by Enail on Sun May 21, 2017 4:44 pm

I still haven't recovered from that end bit of the last episode of Berserk, I'm in danger of starting to bawl if someone so much as looks sad, even if it's a Titan.

E33:

-Isn't "the bigger they are the harder they fall" supposed to be encouraging?  Shrug
-Oh no, Mikasa!
-Levi's so aggressively unimpressed with the military troops joking about where he's hiding the Titans. Laughing Granted, he's also pretty aggressively unimpressed with Titans themselves, so it's possible he just only has the one facial expression.
-Sasha just chugging water endlessly while the other guy reports Laughing
-Oh, that guy's Jean, I was wondering who the fuck he was.
-Going over this backstory stuff seems like it's going to be more "wow, Mikasa's a badass," I'm reaaaaalllly hoping that'll lead into who won between her and Annie, b/c I need to see that fight, and I think we've otherwise pretty well established that she's a badass and always wants to protect Eren, which seems like all they're telling us here
-I'm a little surprised Mikasa's fazed by 5 hours having passed, I was half-expecting her to be like "fine, we just have to warp time and space and then kill everyone, let's get on it, chop chop."
-Hannes going with them to bring back the good old days
-Mikasa and Armin's intense determination at eating their rations Laughing
-Connie, I think you already did hear that Reiner and Bertholdt are your enemies straight from their mouths. Were you not paying attention last episode? Disapproving
-Hange (I way preferred Hanji as a translation) too injured to even sit up but still insists on doing the planning

Man, hardly anything happened this episode. But Beast Titan's back next ep!
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Re: Attack on Titan

Post by bomaye on Sun May 21, 2017 7:19 pm

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- Welp, Eren loses again
- Pixis, the functional alcoholic who still knows what's going on anyway rofl
- Levi being all "you can come with next time if you want" to all those dumbfuck Guards
- And suddenly in the past, all of humanity breaks out into a big street brawl
- Flashback illustrated what Hannes gets into later: no matter what she does, Eren always breaks away from her and nearly gets himself killed Sad
- Hannes is gonna die on this expedition, isn't he Sad
- Mikasa covering her face with Eren's scarf while she's tearing up, tfw no protector waifu Sad
- Awww shiiii, Erwin's on the scene, Hanji has everything figured out
- Oh boy, Reiner and Eren gonna get into a screaming match about who is the real villain, tell us the fucking motivations already, WE STILL DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY THE VILLAINS ARE DOING ANYTHING
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