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E8
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-They're walking a really fine line there with Ocelot talking with great relish about how torture's a sport to him while trying not to make it sound sexual, most villains land up crossing the line but he doesn't quite.
-"I want Russia to be reborn into a brave new order"
-telling him (and presumably the player) to put the controller up to your arm, don't worry, it'll feel good. And then he moans. Not sure it's the arm the controller goes on. Or that "shiatsu massage" is the right word for that.
-making him come up with the conversation topic to distract him from the pain while he's the one being tortured. And he lands up having to do all the talking even then. I guess the icy scientist persona is a good way to cover up just being a really awkward human being who can't hold a conversation.
-his "yup" at being asked about killing his dad
-why did they name a game location "Zanzibar Land" when there's a country with that name that seems like it's totally unrelated, anyway? It's like if they had Canada Land, a breakaway province of India.
-"that's the trauma of my life," he's getting all emotional under torture
-Aww, and the colonel's still his friend
-this whole thing she has about genes predisposing people towards violence is starting to take her pretty far to the wrong side of the whole "eugenics" thing. Like, there might be a reason that "wanting to know who she is" lead her to specialize in genetically engineering super-soldiers instead of, say, using gene therapy to develop a cure for cancer, or even just founding 23-and-Me
-"Stop liquid." For some reason my legit instinctual first reaction reaction was "noo, we need some liquids!"
-Aww, everyone comforting and encouraging Snake (except for Naomi, who's probably just sitting there uncomfortably thinking "should I say something? I don't know what to say" and being too awkward to try). Yep, she only pops up to be like "come on, do you like her?" b/c she's too awkward to say "hey, I want you to go back to flirting with meee!" but also too awkward to read the room and realize that while he's flashing back to the other woman being shot isn't right time.
-Liquid Snake comes off as exactly the same kind of douche as a blond 80s businessman villain.
-that leaping in the air to dodge bullets while flipping over the railway to rappel down was pretty cool
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Episode 09 (02:41:19-03:03:19, the screen goes black after stealth-Otacon walks away, the last spoken word is "too")
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- Otacon wants to know the tricks to baggin chicks from Snake
- "Do you think love can bloom even on a battlefield?" "Yeah, I do." Grizzled Snake's a fucking softy
- Part of what makes Snake a legend is his crazy ability to defeat mechanized war vehicles on his own
- Flipping off the missile was one of the most egregious bullet-time moments that fans of the first game complained about
- Snake casually mentioning that he had to take out the helicopter, the fucking humblebrag
- Also very firmly trying to keep Otacon safe after screwing up by letting Meryl tag along
- The elevator ambush set-up is so cool. The "uhhhh, did the weight limit set off too?" "SHIT SNAKE THEY'RE IN THERE WITH YOU"
- Kicking up his Sniper Rifle for the last shot
- Sniper Wolf's a kurd
- Gunfire, sirens and screams were her lullabies
- Big Boss rescued her, and then she becomes a Sniper so she can see war from the outside instead of being in the middle of it
- She was waiting for someone to kill her, that one does get tossed around a few times in the series
- Getting her gun and then honorably executing her so she won't suffer while dying anymore even though they were enemies on the battlefield
- Wimpy-ass Otacon and Manly-ass Snake both having problems saving women
- Snake what the fuck are we all fighting for
- Otacon making it sound like it's something he dropped and he'll just find it if he looks around for it
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Oops, falling behind on this.
E9
This comment was so perfectly spot-on:
E9
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-Snake's just trying to get his job done and survive, while everyone around him cares more about his love-life than trivial matters like saving the world and not dying. And it's not just the women who constantly come off like they're hitting on him.
-Snake tells Otacon he looks like hell, Otacon gives a dramatic "don't worry, if I do this, it doesn't matter," and blinks out. Even he's starting to get a teeny bit badass.
-The conversation between Solid and Liquid over the noise of the chopper, Liquid's saying all kinds of dramatic shit about him killing their dad, while Snake's "what?" sounds like he just couldn't hear him over the chopper.
-missile-jumping
-That's a weirdly low weight limit, an elevator that big usually takes like 12 ppl. Not sure why this is bugging me, though The surprise people in there with him would have been cooler if they hadn't made it so obvious
-Otacon's got Stockholm Syndrome hots for Sniper Wolf
-how sensible, she did up her coat to go outdoors. This also confirms that the creators care less about fanservice boobies than they do about fanservice man-chests, b/c Liquid Snake didn't even put on a shirt to go outside, let alone button up his coat.
-that flip into kicking his weapon into his hands during the sniper fight was badass
-being a sniper let her see war from the outside instead of being a refugee trapped inside it
-the wolves all gathering round as she dies
-"Wolves are noble animals, they're not like dogs," that dog hate
-setting her apart from mercenaries like him
-"I was waiting for someone to kill me," this game really goes big on the dramatic death scenes
-That was a pretty cool death
-Otacon's voice actor isn't really up to the big emotional scenes, it comes off sounding silly
-telling him to go start a new life
This comment was so perfectly spot-on:
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- Otacon making it sound like it's something he dropped and he'll just find it if he looks around for it
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Episode 10 (03:03:19-03:24:37, last line is a codec conversation that says "We're counting on you")
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- Shooting in an x-formation is kinda cool but you guys maybe could've shot AT Snake
- They land before the bullet shell casings do, cool as fuck but I don't think gravity works that way
- Miller just wants Snake to know his resume
- Naomi's backstory was a lie
- That is a mighty large gun
- Vulcan Raven bringing up the Native Olympics just to humble-brag
- Snake's quick with pulling the Nikita launcher out of nowhere
- The guy who heart-attacked way back at the start was Decoy Octopus, not the actual Darpa Chief
- The Raven's fucking eating him where he stands
- Naomi is not Naomi
- The real Naomi Hunter is dead
- Colonel Campbell still not letting them in on something
- METAL GEAR
- Otacon are you abad boyhacker?
- Nuke's ready to roll and it's nasty
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E10
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-Snake's weirdly skeptical that Naomi could be a spy, for someone who doesn't trust anyone.
-all the bosses have animal friends, oh shit, is Snake killing Disney protagonists and we're the real bad guys?! (I was super into dramatic animal companions as a kid, though, so I'm still a bit of a sucker for it.)
-"THE JUDGEMENT IS DECIDED," the villains are all so dramatic
-"There's no crows in my family tree"
-Snake and Raven dude comparing their enormous...weapons
-circle of life means he's gonna keep watching him through the ravens that eat his corpse
-The way all the bosses hand over their keycard and maybe give him a few tips once they're defeated, seems like loyalty's not too high, the bad guys should consider upgrading their insurance plan and introducing flexible hours
-ooh, the guy who died wasn't the real DARPA chief!!
-oh god the ravens are going to eat him alive
-and those wet tearing sounds
-"the path you walk on will never end"
-Naomi's not the real Naomi but the colonel's still not going to tell them anything
-So their big missile innovation is basically that they just throw it really hard at where they want it to go
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Episode 11 (03:24:37-03:50:04, last line is a Codec Conversation "You may die now.")
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- Nuke China instead of Russia because complicated political shit will make everyone look bad
- And blowing up a test site to make it look like an accident
- "Foxdie Virus"
- Killed Octopus and Baker because they were older (except Ocelot is old and isn't dying?), but didn't kill Mantis because he wore a mask and Sniper Wolf because she takes tranquilizers (this is actually part of the game mechanics, if you don't take a pill to lower your heart rate and calm yourself, the sniper scope will move around a lot).
- They were using Mantis' psychic powers to keep the edge off their soldiers
- Liquid's starting to think about digging in and fighting
- OUTER HEAVEN. Liquid's copying what Big Boss originally did
- Ocelot's scoped out Snake
- The key is three keys in one. Clever, now you have to artificially backtrack through the base to heat and cool it down.
- Ocelot fucking pops his revolver out of his holster with his stump
- Miller's got the gossip on Naomi
- A people-targeting virus
- ... that simulates heart attacks...
- ... which Naomi may be behind
- Naomi doesn't even know how old she is
- Her big brother. Frank Jaeger. Gray Fox
- Naomi met Big Boss
- Gray Fox as Cyborg Ninja and Naomi the gene-doctor here to fuck everyone up
- She programmed the virus to kill Snake too
- The real thing she wanted to tell him was CUT OFF
- Actually Snake, I think the Colonel's up to like quadruple or quintuple-crossing you
- PAL code activates the launch instead of stopping it
- H-hey Miller
- LIQUIDDDDDD
Plot twists, man
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E11
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-Now that it's buttoned up, that's a nice jacket!
-complex machinations to damage the US and the President's reputation seem so strange now, my first reaction was "why? Just wait a few minutes, he's sure to do something to damage it himself."
-a million dollars sounds so out of date too, that's so little!
-the genome soldiers are all brainwashed and starting to wear off
-all that dramatic talk of Liquid's plans and then Ocelot's just like "or we could just escape," I kind of love how deadpan he is
-shape-changing alloy key sounds so cool, but a one-use key that can either activate or deactivate, you just know he's going to land up unwittingly activating it
-a rat ate the key, they were really struggling with how to get from A to B, huh?
-the heart attacks were fake-Naomi (I tried to be clever and call her Spyomi, but even when I was re-reading this I didn't know what the fuck that word was meant to be, so please register that it would have been terribly clever if it hadn't been so dumb) using an assassination virus
-Ugh, torture doesn't actually work, it's more likely to just get whatever the informant thinks the torturer wants to hear!! That's a pet peeve trope of mine.
-Naomi's skin colour's meant to be not white? She's paler than almost any of the other characters, if I'd had to guess what she looked like in full colour, I'd have said she's a pale strawberry blond! That's super-weird.
-"No one else tries to understand me so why should I try to understand myself" sounds so teenage
-oh noo, she's here for revenge on him
-oho, ninja Grey Fox he just wants a good fight (man, all these people need a hobby)
-But him being injected with the virus was part of the project, not her revenge, this is getting exciting!
-And Master's the real traitor, fuck, I should have figured, of course the character Snake starts out fully trusting and has was no real reason to be there is gonna be the traitor!
-how did he fake the voice!? (also, it's hilarious that Liquid takes off the glasses and lets down his hair when he's on the radio, villains have to be dramatic even if no one's there to see)
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I kind of love that with the span of minutes you get betrayed by basically all of your support team for all completely different reasons. All the plots within plans within plans within backstabs
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Episode 12 (03:50:04 -04:09:52, last line is "Isn't that reason enough for warriors such as us?" in the middle of a cutscene. I'm cutting it at an awkward time so the last two parts can be similarly sized)
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- "Snake! Did you like my sunglasses?" Iconic line
- The mission was all a diversion just to infect everyone with FOXDIE and then they could pick up the Metal Gear and the Genome Soldiers without any problems
- Naomi altered FOXDIE somehow
- Liquid doing a gymnastics routine while he explains his sinister machinations to Snake
- The Snakes and Ocelot haven't appeared to have been affected by the virus yet
- The Twin Snakes
- Les Enfants Terribles
- Liquid's mad that Snake got all of Big Boss' Chad Genes and he was left with all the recessive Incel genes
- And he's mad as fuck that Snake killed papa Big Boss before Liquid could get around to it
- Liquid is getting into the Metal Gear Rex cockpit and I'm kinda going "Uhhhh Snake maybe shoot him" but then Snake does and misses
- The demon weapon that will drag the world into the 21st Century
- The metallic roar as the cockpit opens
- Cyborg Ninja Gray Fox to the rescue
- Fox killed Naomi's parents in the first place
- Having a heart-to-heart discussion while Rex is freaking out and shooting shit in the background
- The machinegun bullets peeling off Fox's facemask
- Oh fuck, laser-sliced off his arm
- SPLAT OH FUCK
- Fox blew up the Sensor Radome so Liquid has to expose himself to see what's happening
- SPLAT PART 2
- And Liquid grinds it in like a cigarette and then drags it across the ground, god damn what a dick
- That slowdown before Rex blows up
- And ofc Liquid survives
- Liquid's inferiority complex rises to the surface again. He wants to rewind time to the Cold War so people like him could be valuable again. The same way he wasn't picked by Big Boss, he also wasn't picked by the era
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E12
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-wait, why is Snake surprised that the Pentagon was using him as a vehicle to kill ppl with Foxdie? Isn't that the only possible conclusion from what Naomi told him? I guess he's just surprised that that was the only point of the whole plan? But he seemed surprised by Foxdie specifically.
-those show-off flips on the railing
-guess Naomi changed it to not kill the Snakes
-if their genetic code was truly 100% identical they presumably wouldn't look different, how does he know that the virus doesn't target hair-colour genes or compulsion-to-take-off-shirt genes?
-One got all their father's dominant genes and one got all the recessive genes and also the recessive genes are lesser and flawed because I guess they don't understand what "dominant" means in terms of genes?!? I'm pretty sure a geneticist would be having conniptions right now. And if they each inherited totally different genes from their parent, THEY'RE NOT TWINS!! (Okay, I guess they could be fraternal twins, but in that case, they're no more genetically identical than any other full siblings and therefore could have different susceptibilities to the virus). This whole thing just amazingly quickly jumped from "Mad Science" to "What's Science?"
-and the idea that they had to make a child who takes all the father's recessive genes to be able to make a child with all the dominant genes makes it sound like they literally picked up the father and poured all his genes into an egg, and recessive genes float so they couldn't pour out the dominant genes until they'd found somewhere to put the recessive ones, in which case, why didn't they just pour them down the sink, and how did the father keep walking around with all his genes poured out
-Liquid's daddy issues involve him getting revenge against his father by doing what his father would have wanted to happen? Next he should get revenge on me by baking me a really delicious cake!
-I got inferior failure genes and I'm so mad that I've defined my life around it, but I'm also proud of the destiny in my genes? Didn't he just say that destiny was "be inferior?"
-Metal Gear just smashing its way out of the launching area
-I love that they designed it with the ability to roar
-Grey Fox comes to save the day
-Aw man, he's the one who killed Naomi's parents
-Grey Fox's Matrix bullet-dodging heroic suicide run
-his arm off, and you think it'll be injury after injury and still unbelievably fighting until he's agonizingly taken down - and then that sudden CRUSH
-still manages to get in one last shot and some symbolism
-that squish, though
-He just wants a world where he's important and a daddy that picked him
That got pretty whack-a-doodle, but that was a solid cool battle
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I think Liquid's going to explain the actual method soon (oh boy ) but
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They were basically 1970s designer babies so they were actual mad science at that point in time.
Also it was written IRL in the mid '90s so the Human Genome Project wasn't even complete yet and we were only a few years removed from the OJ case teaching everyone what genetic material even was in the first place.
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- What? Wtf, no, in 1996 that would have been ridiculous to everyone who passed high school science! And I say that as someone who'd quit biology the year before and therefore had about three weeks of Grade 10-level genetics. The twin stuff especially, that's way beyond the standard level of pop culture mad-science at the time! I'm looking forward to the explanation!
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Passed high school science in 1996 or passed high school science and didn't go on to become a scientist in the late '70s/early '80s and instead designed video games for a living? :p
I mean, I remember showing my parents some of the stuff we were doing in Grade 8 and they would go "What the fuck?" and they're not much older than the game's writer
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- I don't think I even learned any actual science till high school. And I'd 100% go "what the fuck" at Grade 8 science now, too (way more than my parents did at mine ), but people still retain a vague general sense/acquire a general sense of things you didn't learn then from media at large, even if the details are shockingly unfamiliar and advanced.
And that was well within popular knowledge at the time, let alone even the cursory fact-checking a writer ought to do to dig up some vaguely plausible science bafflegab; popular discussion about Jurassic Park alone covered enough popular-science-level genetics to provide a general sense that this doesn't make sense, and that was several years earlier. And, I mean, even if you don't really know about genes at all, unless you just get plain old confused by the mystery words you don't know being thrown around to the point where you don't get that they're talking about inheriting traits, you could see it makes no sense - as long as you know how babies are made, you'd know you don't need to put all the inferior traits into one twin for the other one to be able to have all the good ones, because two babies (or 100) can both inherit the same trait from their father.
Come on, this would have been blatantly, gloriously ridiculous even if it was made 50 years ago! The 90s wasn't quite the Dark Ages.
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In the OJ Simpson trial, they had to bring in an expert to explain to the jury that your genetic fingerprint is in every part of you and easily left behind in crime scenes, and the defense successfully made it out to be quack voodoo medicine and that was 1995. I think you're wildly overestimating the common knowledge of the average person
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- Genetics' use in law enforcement was pretty new and people didn't really have a good sense of what was realistic, yeah, but knowing what's realistic is a much higher bar than knowing what's ridiculous. And inheritance was a much better-understood aspect and also is a much more obvious and straightforward extension of long-established existing broader knowledge that doesn't depend on understanding genetics specifically (like the "two babies can inherit the same trait" concept I used as an example), so had a relatively much lower barrier to widespread understanding. There's all kinds of things where you can get by on mad science with "if you don't know the details, you can accept that it could be possible, or that it could in a more fantastical world," but this one contradicted really basic life-knowledge that doesn't deeply depend on understanding of the science element, rather than just slipping in between the gaps in scientific understanding and then stretching, so I think it's a way bigger stretch than fits with the degree of over-the-top mad science-ness of the rest of it.
Since it's a pretty over-the-top game anyway, I think it's fun rather than damaging to the story or to suspension of disbelief, but it still deserves some mockery .
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Episode 13: (04:09:52-04:30:49, last line is "Thanks Snake" on codec)
I'm just gonna finish watching the last episode too
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- "Father was wounded in combat and already in a coma when they brought him in." Oh shit, I forgot that plot point went back this far
- Accomplices in murder before the day they were even born
- All the Genome Soldiers got some Big Boss genes
- Gulf War Syndrome was human experimentation (I think they mentioned Liquid fought in the Gulf War)
- Too symmetrical
- We goin Darwin now
- "Look behind you." "Ha, made you look"
- Liquid's far too into thinking his genes have deteremined his path in life. Basically an incel
- Pentagon's gonna Nuke Shadow Moses
- Using Naomi fiddling with FOXDIE as an excuse to cover everything up with a nice neat nuclear explosion
- Good guy Colonel Campbell
- Secretary of Defense the real bad guy
- "He is a RIDICULOUS man"
- Everyone wants that Metal Gear test data
- Hand to hand fist-fight on the busted carcass of Metal Gear Rex
- Snake just destroyed a walking tank and beat up his buff dominante gene'd brother and saved the girl against all odds and Otacon's response is the same kind of "Good job!" a parent gives to a small child for being able to figure out how to do something simple
- "I'm through regretting the past. Life isn't all about loss. So I'm just gonna die and you can deal with the loss instead " God damn, Otacon
- "I've found a reason to live" THEN WHY ARE YOU CHOOSING TO DIE
- "Thanks." Oh my. Talk politely to me, Snake
I'm just gonna finish watching the last episode too
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Clicked off the page and lost all the commentary, so I'll just comment on a few things
Episode 14: (There is an after-credits scene)
Any interest in doing 2? That one's the weirdest/plot-twisty/artsy/at points frighteningly accurate about how the modern world turned out
Episode 14: (There is an after-credits scene)
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- Of course Liquid survives
- The matrix jump from Jeep to Jeep while Meryl's unconscious
- Fox
- DIE
- Snake telling Naomi that Fox told her to get one with her life and forget about him
- They never mention it here, but Naomi randomized Snake's FOXDIE time-limit with the idea to mentally torture him with the knowledge that he can drop dead at any moment for certain. That's why Liquid suddenly died and he didn't
- Don't be trapped by your genes as it shows a genetically decayed and dead Liquid Snake
- This end-credits song is pretty good
- Eyyyyy Ocelot
- Ocelot got the Metal Gear optical disc everyone was after
- Ocelot didn't accidentally kill the Darpa Chief, he did it on purpose because the Darpa chief "knew who he was"
- Liquid wasn't the one who got the worst genes, it was Snake
- "No one knows you're the third one, Solidus"
- "Mr President"
- Ocelot was double-agent, the reason FOXDIE didn't kill him was because he was exempted from it
Any interest in doing 2? That one's the weirdest/plot-twisty/artsy/at points frighteningly accurate about how the modern world turned out
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Hm, I'm not all that into it, but I'm also not watching anything else this season, so I'm fine with continuing with the next game if you like, unless there's something else you'd rather recommend.
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-"accomplices in murder before we were born," Liquid's so hilariously dramatic, they were all just tiny, non-sentient clumps of cells, what does he think they could have done, called an anti-abortion crisis pregnancy centre?
-the biology continues to make no fucking sense and it's 95% hilarious, but I'm also still wondering how the writers managed to learn enough genetics terms to come up with all this bafflegab without a single one of them realizing that dominant and recessive genes are not "good genes" and "bad genes," and the more they talk genetics the more that scares me (though, it'd also be fantastic if the writers knew it, and they actually intended Liquid to have based his entire melodramatic life on a total misunderstanding of an extremely basic scientific term )
-nice borrowing of real life stuff there with the Gulf War Syndrome
-Asymmetry theory wtf
-They don't know when they'll get a disease or what it'll be. So...just like every other mortal?
-It sounds like they just mean some kind of genetic decay from repeat cloning, that on its own would be way more easily believable and explainable, why link it with symmetry and have to get so ridiculous in the explanations?!
-his genes compel him to keep his clone sibs alive, but he's still gonna kill Snake (and Snake & his fellow clones' genes are fine with shooting e/o)
-Meryl!
-drop a nuke to clean up all the evidence
-After all the betrayals and secrets, the Colonel's big moment of coming through to help Snake is just giving a useless order to confuse people between the chain of command and the fact that he's a figurehead, I'm not sure if that's hilarious or sad
-He gets removed before he can even do his figurehead thing
-save Meryl from the nuclear explosion just so she can die in another nuclear explosion a few minutes later, that's not much of an incentive.
-SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!
-some nice bits in that reunion scene with Meryl, I think the writing's improved from the earlier bits
-Interrupted! (probably for the best, I still think she's got more of a little sister dynamic than a real romantic vibe)
-Otacon staying behind to get the doors open for them, b/c he's got a reason to live, which somehow means deciding to die
-and Snake telling him he believes in him, we're getting all mushy in here
Hm, I'm not all that into it, but I'm also not watching anything else this season, so I'm fine with continuing with the next game if you like, unless there's something else you'd rather recommend.
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The only obvious thing we're watching in the Fall anime season is Golden Kamuy so we probably won't be too overloaded if it crosses over there. Also I kind of want to see your reactions to the weird bullshit in MGS2
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-Otacon staying behind to get the doors open for them, b/c he's got a reason to live, which somehow means deciding to die
-and Snake telling him he believes in him, we're getting all mushy in here
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TBH the real OTP is Snake and Otacon
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bomaye wrote:The only obvious thing we're watching in the Fall anime season is Golden Kamuy so we probably won't be too overloaded if it crosses over there. Also I kind of want to see your reactions to the weird bullshit in MGS2
Okay, sounds good, weird bullshit, here we come!
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TBH the real OTP is Snake and Otacon
Definitely!
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So a fucking nerd rapper released his retirement album lately and god damn if he didn't get a special feature
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E14
Cute!
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-when they were gazing into each others' eyes and trying to sound romantic saying each others' names, I was like "oh thank god" when a crash interrupted it, the romance is so awkward.
-Snake's sneaking suit conveniently showing up, okay, but where did Meryl find that puffer vest? Who even wears shirts around here??
-dodge-jumping bullets across cars to kick the weapon out of his hand in the middle of a car chase, pretty badass
-wait and after all that genetics-lesson, FOXDIE kills him after all? That's a bit of a letdown!
-Snake just quietly waits so he can get up and look him in the eye before dying
-he still assumes Liquid dying means he's going to die too, guess he forgot about his superior, dominant genes that are probably virus-proof
-don't worry, everyone, the president wasn't evil, the government is full of corrupt hawks, cynical, lying careerists, and revenge-filled spies, but the president's a great guy (please don't launch a "videogames lead to violence" campaign on us, Mr. President <_<)
-Aww, Campbell and Snake make up
-Naomi gets some closure on her brother
-ghosts are already dead, Naomi, alive ghosts with a physical body are just people
-"It's up to you to use the time left to you," maybe it would help him make that decision if you told him how long he has to use, jeez
-Naomi's whole speech on how genes aren't destiny, except it's kind of an asshole thing to say given that they do kind of play a role in whether you die of any genetically-targeted assassination diseases that happen to be around (I assume this is also her poetic way of saying "nah, you're fine" rather than that she's actually being that much of a jerk, though)
-Snake saying maybe he's gonna live for Meryl from now on, but I assume she'll be long in the background by the next game. Even if games didn't tend to want a new love interest each game, I can't see them having a long-term future.
-Snake has a name, and it's not even Hunk McManMeat or Cliff Razorblade or anything.
-Revolver Ocelot?
-Oops, Liquid actually got the better genes
-Wuh-oh, President's evil after all
bomaye wrote:
So a fucking nerd rapper released his retirement album lately and god damn if he didn't get a special feature
Cute!
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Re: Metal Gear Solid Watch-along
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Yeah, they didn't mention it so I forgot where it does get mentioned, but Naomi randomized FOXDIE for Snake as a form of revenge, she doesn't actually know how much time he's got either
Final thoughts before we start on 2?
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