Spring Anime 2022 (Summertime Render)
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Caught back up
Summertime Render E14
Summertime Render E14
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-Forbidden by Shide-sama?? Four-arms. Guess he's a god too.
-licking Hizuru's blood but doesn't seem to want to go further, she genuinely seems non-evil here, not just faking to draw Hizuru in
-I wonder if she's (the child part of her, at least) acting out her family when they're playing with the dolls
-talking about everyone starving, no fish - and Hiruko is a god of fishermen. Maybe they sacrificed the child Haine to the god in hopes of ending the famine. This also seems like this is more the child than the god here
-wants her shadow petted too, Hizuru learning things she'll later use to try and kill her, by comforting her
-oh no, what/who is she eating.
-Shinpei yelling hard enough to make young Hizuru in the memory hear him for a minute
-flash
-Ryuunosuke looking over real Ryuunosuke's body that I assume she just murdered on instinct because he caught her in a blood-lust moment and then panic-copied, that desperate screaming denial that she did it. Seems like the Haine child part of her mostly overrode her knowledge of the Hiruko god part being murderous (or maybe just depended on blood sacrifices rather than willfully evil) until starvation made her snap and then she can't cope
-her eye just launches out of her?!? I lol'd at this even though it should be dramatic, screaming so hard you yeet your own eyeball is just too goofy, they kind of fucked up this reveal
-So I guess the Ryuunosuke part of her is so strong because it's actually a bit of god-tier-shadow flesh+eyeball that's copied his personality, that just kind of wandered inside Hizuru's body, and then later the bit of Haine-shadow must have stayed enough to still have a bit of her powers even after the eyeball went to Shinpei and that's why their future-sight is so much less than Shinpei's time resetting. Eyeball residue.
-the time shortens because Shinpei's power is weakening, now they know that they can just kill him till his power runs out, not good
-they've got the whole team on board and using Ushio's memory replay to fill everyone in, let's go!
-Mio hugging Ushio
-oh no, they forgot Alan!
-that flash image of the ground crumbling at his feet
-TOKIKO?!? They trust her enough to bring her in??? I guess they figured if she knows how badly helping the shadows ends up she'll switch
-Fuck, they already got Nezu, that's not a good sign
-Totsumura freaking out at everyone signing on to risk their lives
-suddenly he's in his house. Making a sandwich, alone. He brought a sandwich like that to Nagumo, in this loop, just a bit earlier, could be him making that. Which is way later than last loop and he has no idea how he died. And Ushio's not there. Fuck.
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- So Ryuunosuke's data "bounced" into Hizuru somehow, which is how he died in that other timeline I take it? His data just ran out?
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- You mean the one in the sewers where Ryuunosuke died but Hizuru didn't? I thought it was more like the bit of Haine in him got fatally damaged and since the original Ryuunosuke is dead there's nothing to repair it with, what do you mean by "run out?"
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Aaand I'm ahead again
Summertime Render E15
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-that cliff with the ground breaking under him again, could be just this time metaphor, but it also feels like it could be more - they show it similarly to how they've used the stepping back thing previously, makes me wonder if it couldn't be what stepping back has always been trying to keep him from falling into, I'd assume related to his parents' death, whether that's just emotionally or if there was an actual cliff involved.
-Shide leading all the shadow townspeople, god, there's a ton of them now. A lot of people probably killed too late for the next loop. Looks like a bittersweet victory at best for the end, unless Ushio can just rewrite all their shadows and start the town afresh with shadow-versions
-Nezu dropping shadows fast
-Flung the bullet right back at him
-Hizuru thanking Ryuunosuke
-WOAH, the wild shadows work for Tokiko??! Badass! But why? I assumed they were automatically on Haine's side, as the mother of all shadows
-Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, that's adorable. Also, that creepy-calm voice of hers sounds super-badass there.
-Haine has futuresight too. Bye, Nagumo
-WOO! NEZU! YESS! (though, why didn't Haine future-see Nezu's coming, is Haine's futuresight just because she can see what Ryuunosuke's eyeball residue can see, which is only relating to him? ...if so, that suggests both her eyes don't have the same power)
-Shadow babies picked Tokiko!? I guess feeding them made her their mommy? Oh wait, no, Ushio reprogrammed them, very cool but not as funny
-Mio coming to kill Tokiko and all she's thinking about is Mio's naked body
-"I'm pure-hearted, I'll have you know," I didn't expect to get laughs from Shide
-KABOOM! GIANT INFERNO! That was so satisfying!
-Noooo, don't fall for crying little girl, Ushio! I wonder what she wants to go home to, though.
-Nooo, Ushio!
-SHINPEI! FUCK!
-oh no, trying to destroy her data for the next loop (though, her arm that was injured before got repaired, was that just because in trying to take over Haine she was able to pick up some extra data or something??) In spite of all sense, I keep hoping Ushio could really get a happy ending and I wish I wouldn't because it means stuff like this hits me harder
-USHIO! YES! GO USHIO! PUNCH THE HELL OUT OF HIM!
-making a decoy self out of herself
-WHAT. Shide's a human in there????? But has no data
-Shinpei is not moving like someone mortally wounded with a few minutes left in him, Shide might need to study up on anatomy a little better
-Haine saying she's hungry, sounding more genuinely like a child, and then that evil "of course" from Shide
-diy bulletproof vest
-reclaiming Mio's shadow! Plus, this would be a great solution for that love triangle, enough Mios to go around! Also, maybe that scenario I said jokingly at the start of the episode is a real possibility.
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You mean the one in the sewers where Ryuunosuke died but Hizuru didn't? I thought it was more like the bit of Haine in him got fatally damaged and since the original Ryuunosuke is dead there's nothing to repair it with, what do you mean by "run out?"
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Damaged enough that whatever leftover data there was couldn't keep his personality alive, sorta the same way Ushio's data was struggling to maintain her damaged arm and eventually she had to stop maintaining it.
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Oh, okay, that's what I meant too, I just didn't get your phrasing.
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Summertime Render E15
Caught up B)
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- Oooo, the collapsing ground is the edges of time
- ONE LOOP LEFT
- Gosh darnit, why did you choose the same meeting place
- I like how no one has trauma from seeing Shimpei shot in the head right in front of them
- Damn, Shadows just gonna rush him because whytf not, they'll either kill him or kill someone close to him and make him loop again
- HA, they were setting up petty tricks x)
- Damn, sniping the shadows and then Shide easily fires one back with a flick of his finger
- D'awww, she named her freaky shadow buddies after Romeo and Juliet stuff
- The Ryuunosuke fight is some Resident Evil shit
- Even down to Shide being very similar to a Tyrant or Nemesis
- FUCK Ryuunosuke taking a bullet to prevent Shimpei's death
- And they knew she'd do it which is why they're doing it
- NEZU NO-SCOPING HELL YEAH
- It's mildly unsettling that Tokiko somehow bent Rosencrantz and Guildenstern to her will over a fucking ancient god
- Oh no, it's Ushio's reprogramming
- ARSON
- Probably erase her before something else comes up
- Yeppppp
- God fucking damn, Shide burning up Ushio with him after riddling Shimpei with bullets
- Shide is lagging like a computer glitch
- Shimpei's gonna have to shoot himself to save Ushio and also restart the final loop
- GOD DAMN USHIO
- She just pulled a Naruto Shadow Clone move on Shide
- AND SHE'S ERASING HIM WHAT
- Haine's scream turned the inside into a vaccum
- "How are Papa and Mama" and he responds by telling her that Shimpei's final loop is about to begin?
- Nope, Shimpei's legs should've both broken on that fall
- Whoa, a bullet-proof vest ass-pull
- Erased the air inside the gym, MAN
- So theoretically would this put off the festival until a later point in the timeline because they have to investigate these things?
- WHOA ANOTHER MIO
Caught up B)
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Summertime Render E16
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- Pumping Shadow Mio for info
- D'awwww, Sou has two Mio's to be awkward around now
- Shadow Mio trying to be Shinmpei's psycho girlfriend with the "That was just alternate timelines, I haven't killed you yet"
- Shadow Mio being all "Just fuck already, kids"
- Watch-Ushio cutting off Shimpei's circulation because she's a scaredy-cat
- Ayyyyy, quick thinking to reprogram Sou and Tokiko's mom
- Sou CPR'ed his dad after all
- Damn, Dr Hishigata said "kill them now" to get Haine's trust back, including Sou
- Huh, so Dr Hishigata is a fucking ninja gunman
- Oh, they switched Shadow Mio
- Hm, to protect Tokiko or because Shadow Mio is more trustworthy as a reprogrammed copy?
- Dr Hishigata can't be copied and he's not sure when that happened
- Oh shit, he thought he was going to survive the whole deal through being copied by a Shadow
- Ah, Dr Hishigata doesn't want to kill Haine because that takes out his wife and everyone else
- Haine just trying to go to Shadow paradise?
- Even his shadow wife is like "Come on, man, wtf"
- Shadow Mom holy shit ;_______;
- He fed Shimpei's parents to Haine, fuck
- Yo, you better not fucking cut off before we find out Shide's identity
- Oh, it's not grand revelation, just the first Hishigata doctor
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Nooo! You got ahead of me!
- Summertime Render E16:
-I hate Ushio's new haircut
-Lots of info from Shadow Mio. Weird how the way shadows are born is so varied.
-Shadow Mio now has no idea why she wanted to kill real Mio. But she still seems very blank, talking about everything very emotionlessly; she doesn't come off like real Mio here as much, only in moments here and there or like Mio-personality's a sheer overlay with another personality equally visible, it's really different from Shadow Ushio
-Shadow Mio embarrassing real Mio by being way more forward with her crush but also creeping the fuck out of Shinpei with her "but I only killed you in other timelines!"
-Ushio-watch crushing Shinpei's hand because hospitals are creepy
-'oh, it's my own corpse, that's totally not scary at all, then'
-Sucks Ushio didn't get to re-scan her body, but "wanna retry" just for that, when the next loop is probably the last?!? What the fuck, Ushio?!
-I get why in live-action shit they have to make CPR look so gentle, but this is animated, she should be breaking his fucking ribs
-Sou so mad at his dad he wants to break some ribs, and CPRs hard enough to actually save him (even though it still looked gentle)
-still expecting Tokiko to obey him to the point of killing her own brother so Haine will trust him again, this family is so fucked up
-Ha, Tokiko was Shadow Mio, fucking great!
-"I wanted her to see the deepest parts of me," totally straight-faced But also b/c she doesn't want secrets anymore
-Shadow Mio doesn't want to copy Shinpei and see he doesn't love her
-Disappointed he can't be copied? Wtf, dude? Maybe to be with his Shadow wife?
-Ushio playing it positive and tough about the fact she's gonna die with Haine, but you can tell it's an act
-Shadow Mom telling Evil Dad off, Shadow Mom is great!
-Haine wants to make a family of shadows and take them home where humans can't go. I guess the Hishigata's were supposed to get picked. Offers at least some kind of bittersweet hope for Ushio
-what actually happened to Shadow Mom? This big goodbye scene, but, like, was there any particular reason she had to disappear after? Her original was dead, so why couldn't she have stuck around to help them?
-fuckkk, evil doctor killed Shinpei's parents for discovering Hiruko, he is such a shithead. I'm kind of surprised we're just being told flatly like this, I thought there'd be more to discover about it and it'd involve Shinpei in some way. Maybe the stepped-back thing's never going to land up being anything other than a mindset too.
-Shide's Hiruko's first child/the Hishigata's' ancestor. A little anti-climactic, feels like.. okay? he's some guy?
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I was waiting to find out that
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Shide was Shimpei's two parents somehow mashed into one monster shadow body. It'd kinda make sense because they discovered the cave and likely Haine and perhaps even gave her the idea for making a family in the first place
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- Oooh, that'd be cool. Though there'd need to be a reason they got so evil, they seem so much worse than Haine. Also, Haine mentioned Shide before Shinpei's parents were killed, though it's not 100% for sure since they didn't make clear how long between each of the scenes with Haine and Hizuru.
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Summertime Render 17
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-of course Ushio wants to touch the boobs, this girl has no filter Not having constant fanservice make me actually find it funny when they do.
-wait, Ushio's the bit of Haine that broke off and picked up Ryuunosuke's data?? Then how is she separate now? And if she's not in Hizuru, why does Ryuunosuke still exist there? If you add in that Shinpei's got the actual eye part, this means that one piece is now split into three and gives the three people different powers, this seems a bit awkward and I'm a little worried the show won't be able to fit it all together in a way that doesn't seem cheap or awkward, this has been their one weak point so far
-I liked the way Hizuru said she'll kill Ushio if she goes crazy, totally decisive but without a hint of threat or vengefulness in her voice.
-"You're Onee-chan's real shadow." Again, it feels like Shadow Mio isn't that similar to the original, she's so cold and aggressive with Mio
-We already knew it was personality that disqualified Sou from the family secret, but this was a kind of funny way to say it, like it was "hey kiddo, do you care about human life?" "uh, obviously," "welp, better hope my other kid's a psychopath."
-Tokiko's smart, noticing that if he hasn't slept for multiple loops, that's going to affect him
-what the fuck is Nezu up to?
-oh jeez, Nezu's got a shadow of his wife too, beginning to think marriage is a threat to humanity
-since the shadow actually killed the real version, even if Ushio purified her, she'd still be his wife's enemy. But he kept her alive this long.
-Haven't seen stepped-back self in a while.
-Alan's still okay, phew, I was worried after that bit where Shinpei tried to call him and then looped so we didn't find out if he was okay
-Sou's "Y-yeah" when Mio's proclaiming she's with him so she's fine. Seems like he probably suspects she's in love with Shinpei
-using Ushio's hair strands from around the house for data! Way to go Mio! And she got her hairstyle back!
-Little Ushio kicking the crap out of her bullies
-getting a sweet memory of the teacher, I like they way they really don't let any of the deaths feel unimportant even though we don't know them, you really feel like this is a small, isolated place full of people they love so they all matter
-oh god, the teacher shadow with an exacto knife and the kid trying to hold her off with tears running down his face, why is this show making me so sad about someone I didn't know existed till now?
-And Shinpei's "yes, Hitobuchi-sensei" before shooting her
-kind of worrisome to point out he and Ushio sound like a married couple, given there seems to be a theme of husbands losing their Shadow wives.
-what the fuck, Ushio with the red eye and sounding like Haine?!
-the longer this goes on, the more I wonder if maybe we could get a happy ending with Ushio alive.
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Summertime Render 17
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- Shadow Mio being all "quit being a BITCH and tell Shimpei already"
- Hm, so serving the shadows is not directly inherited through the Hishigatas, they just pick the person who's most likely to follow through with things and its kept secret from the rest
- "Don't come in here." Immediately walks in
- Huh, so hunter-kun had forgotten about the first encounter until just recently and has been keeping his shadow'ed wife alive while pinned down for months
- Finally putting down the shadow and promising to follow her soon
- Dissolved Negoro to reform his hand, so Shide's shadow goo has physical limits to it
- So resting possibly earned him a few more loops, but the eye pain and headaches indicates he may be straining the power too hard
- Hm, so the first order of business is to defeat shadows and lower the number of minions
- Regenerating from strands of leftover bathroom hairs
- Shimpei about to defend her and she just yells "DIE" while beating the shit out of her fellow children:lol:
- I dunno Bucci, beating the shit out of bullies probably works better than you'd think
- Shimpei stuck up the tree
- Ushio with a red eye
- Ah, he came to talk to the priest
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Agh, just realized it's next week and I didn't watch this yet! Being sick really kills my already-minimal sense of time. So I'm probably not going to get ahead of you again for a while.
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It's okay, it's inventory time at work which means I go in a little early every day so I'm also hurting for time right now
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Whew, I've still got a chance!
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Summertime Render 18
E19
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-the priest gave up on RPGs for FPS, I was on the fence but now I'm sure he's evil
-"I wasn't born yet when Final Fantasy VII was out"
-Hiruko's only been here since 300 years ago. I somehow assumed she'd been here way longer, maybe to around when the Kojiki was written or even before.
-Karakiri's Shide, I guess there wasn't anyone else it could have been, but I'd been thinking it might just be an old mummified person
-oh god that first copy eating the real Haine
-using the shadow goop as an armour is why he's super-powerful. But then why does he seem to often be more powerful than Haine, if he's just using her goop isn't that just borrowing her power? Maybe once she gave him the goop, it separated from her and so her weakness doesn't affect it? And it doesn't explain why he doesn't have any data, doesn't the goop have data? Maybe it only has data when it's copied something and he's just using spare goop that hasn't been used for anything else?
-Haine's child but birthed in the human way but a clone of the dad, and just handing off the dad's self into each new kid, this is freaky as hell.
-enough people were replaced by shadows that the rest had enough food in the famine, that's a cool element rather than just having Haine end the famine in exchange for sacrifices
-everyone suddenly making horrible cartoony faces, what's with this animation?
-watch out, he doesn't have the burn on his arm!
-Ushio can't take it and kills him, agh, now we don't know what was off
-whoops, there he is again, does that mean Haine had twins and gave them both Shige's self? Somehow that seems way creepier than just having one per generation and passing on the personality to the next
-USHIO!
-wait, WHAT?? She can't just be reset again? Did Shinpei always die first for her to reset up till now??? I'm used to it being okay when people die on this show, and this isn't okay! FUck fuck fuck fuck fuck
-Shinpei just freaking the fuck out
Honestly, though, now that I'm out of the immediate emotions of watching it, this actually makes me more hopeful we could get a happy ending; there's too many episodes left to just have her be gone completely at this point, so surely they're going to have to come up with a way to bring her back, and if that happens near enough to the end, that could work as the big emotional punch for the ending that otherwise I'd expect her or maybe Shinpei dying to be.
E19
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-Crows speaking for Haine. I guess to Haine, if Ushio was made of that bit of her that broke off, she might represent her guilt, the part of her that didn't want to have killed anyone.
-shit, I thought since they'd lasted into the next day, they'd have a bit of breathing room before the cliff, maybe enough for two more loops
-wow, those are fucked up shadows. Is she running out of power?
-if data Haine copied in a previous loop is still copied, and the power gained from eating people remains, doesn't that mean Ushio's data must still exist somewhere? Unless that's just because the original data has some kind of property of "been copied" that exists regardless of if the data exists somewhere. Which would mean copying actually changes the original in some way.
-was that Ushio's voice that stopped her?
-Oh shit, they've got a copy of Shinpei now, not good
-they got it in the third loop and haven't used it till now, damn, they play a long game
-holy fuck, Mio nail-gunned her own shadow in case she'd gone evil now Ushio's gone, maybe that stone-cold quality her shadow has is part of the original's personality after all
-"And you, Totsumura...Why are you here again?"
-she accidentally printed Ryuunosuke forward two seconds in time, nothing to do with the eye, that works way better
-his shadow gunk is "things that were once shadows and those who are currently nothing at all," that sounds cool as hell, and that's why he has no data (beyond the Karikiri part). What does it mean to have no data and still exist, though, what is it if not data anymore? And then, does Haine have any data that's her own, or is it all what she's copied and she's just an empty cavern that sound can echo in, with no soundwaves of her own?
-Ryuunosuke's faster than Haine's telepathy warnings
-uhoh, now he's bigger, sledgehammering didn't help
-Ryuunosuke's so happy to get to talk to Hizuru, while she's just grimly planning to sacrifice themselves
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As my days off are touch-and-go right now, I will have to catch-up again <_<
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Okay, I'll keep going for a couple more episodes since you'll probably catch up fast when you do.
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Wait, I lied, I'm probably not going to get to this week's ep till next weekend or so.
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I'm gonna have 3 out of 5 days off partway through next week, so that will be my catch-up time for it, I think
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I'm probably not going to get to it till next weekend, so you'll probably get ahead of me
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We're not very good at this
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Not very, no. But at least we're not going backwards and un-watching episodes we've already watched!
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One of my days off turned into a not-a-day-off, so I might not catch up for awhile <_<
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Summertime Render 18
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- Ah, so it was an evil whale all along
- This man moved from RPGs to FPS instead of the other way around, that's definitely more of a Japanese gamer quirk in this day and age
- Mentioning FF7 Remake by name. Square must be a sponsor
- (It was pretty good, guy)
- "It makes you think about how to end your life." Well, that's certainly one way to put it
- Comparing an actual copy to cell regeneration, this man just fucked with my Star Trek transporter-phobia
- "Only so many things to copy in space" and so little chance to actually run into any of them
- Oh SHIT, he was actually there?
- AHHHHH SHIDE
- Doesn't even let him finish saying his name before shooting twice
- Actually you should probably kill him now
- "I could just SMASH" Casual murder
- Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm this whole child birth thing
- Freaky gross clone-immortality
- Oh damn, Shadows fished enough to save the islanders. But wouldn't the shadows have killed all of their originals to survive?
- That's a cartoonishly creep-smile
- Shimpei's angry face is kinda funny in a way <_<
- Y-YEAH. TAKE THAT SHIDE
- AH MULTIPLE SHIDES
- Hai One Down
- God damn
- OH FUCK USHIO'S DISSOLVING COMPLETELY
- He wouldn't mind dying once to find out what Shide is all about. That's quite a risk
- Like a child who had his save data erased before the last boss. This BASTARD
- The only thing you'll take back with this loop are despair and regret
- AHHHH SHE'S GONE
Yo, they talked about Final Fantasy 7 in this and then fucking Final Fantasy 7'ed one of the waifus. This shit is next level
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bomaye wrote:Summertime Render 18
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- Oh damn, Shadows fished enough to save the islanders. But wouldn't the shadows have killed all of their originals to survive?
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- I think it was that they copied a bunch of the islanders and killed the originals, but not everyone, and then since shadows don't need food, it meant what they could fish was enough to eat for the smaller number of remaining islanders that they didn't copy.
TBH, if the copies Ushio-style perfect copies and weren't going to constantly be killing and replacing more people endlessly, it doesn't seem like it'd be that bad a solution for the famine, since without the Shadows being involved at all, a lot of people would have just died anyway - maybe more - and their data would have been lost entirely. I guess it's a question of if you do believe an exact copy is truly you or not, and if not, whether you'd rather disappear from the world entirely than have all the copiable things about what makes you who you are go on living without that undefinable thing makes you you and a copy not.
I'd be a little uncomfortable with the idea of this other me living on forever, because I don't think that'd be good for the world or for me personally, to have people living on endlessly, but if it were either I die now and all me-ness is gone forever or I die and an exact copy that has all my memories and feelings goes on for another few decades gradually running out of data from fixing all my papercuts and stubbed toes over the years and then disappears within a normal human life span when they don't have enough data to function reasonably as a person, I think I'd go for the latter.
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