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Re: Berserk
by Enail Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:41 pm
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-oh shit, Casca
-they're doing a good job so far, it feels like it's almost matching the original except that something's a little off in the characters and maybe the action or the use of tones makes things a little less clear, but what a moment to have to continue without Miura!
-feels like he totally took us by surprise, a safe, happy moment, it seemed like everyone would have a little time to come to terms with things and make some decisions, and then GRIFFITH RIGHT FUCKING HERE on the island!
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-goddamn, he can't even touch him
-Fucking Zodd
-the new art is way better than I thought it would be in terms of not being a jarring difference in style, though I definitely feel like we've lost something in clarity of the flow of the action, and in the intensity of emotions, Miura was really a master at that. It's like it's almost exactly the same except that touch of genius is gone
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-oh god, he's got Casca in his arms
-Griffith protecting her from Guts' sword, it's got that awful feeling of things being just wrong like a nightmare
-the magic tree losing all its petals and the island breaking up
-HE's FUCKING TAKING CASCA
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-this is starting to feel like more of a quick sketch of the ending (writing wise, I mean, not visually), rather than the pace that it was meant to be, everything's awfully sudden and skimmed through quickly
-those black oozy things
-Skull Knight!
-the original masters of the island
-holy fuck, that guy stripped to a skeleton, Berserk's still got its gruesomeness :shiver:
-He took Casca, they're gone
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-while the island explodes Guts is just having an existential crisis because he couldn't even touch Griffith, and Casca's gone
-all the magical beings evaporating.
-I don't really get why, though, because Griffith's whole thing has been bringing the supernatural world together with the natural one, why would his presence destroy it? Unless it was specifically some kind of force of goodness that's separate from everything else, that was basically keeping all the other supernatural away, and Griffith's presence destroys it because he's fucking evil no matter now much he tries to pass for good. But that seems a little counter to the way they'd been showing that even the island has darker elements, they just co-exist with them in a more balanced way.
With the timing as it is, it feels like the island and all good magic got destroyed with Miura's death, like he was what was keeping Griffith away.
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Re: Berserk
by Enail Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:06 pm
Memorial Edition E3
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-Behelit's eyes opening and Guts almost dies
-Griffith doing his "I'm just a cute and mischievous little scamp" thing
-the little page boys laughing at Guts not kneeling for the king
-I'd forgotten how timid Charlotte was back then, what a wet blanket
-That scene of Griffith showing Charlotte how to leaf-whistle is surprisingly cute; having started with the manga where that sense of inevitable doom is established right from the start, even the happy scenes had a weight of tragedy or a sense of unease overlaying them, but I feel like if this was your first Berserk, everything might feel totally innocent. It's hard to tell exactly how much, because I can't not see the future in it all; the two ways of telling seem like they'd give quite different experiences even though there's only a few changes. This would be a very interesting series to see if you could watch and read it both for the first time somehow.
-the way Judeau pulls his hand back when Charlotte starts sobbing into Griffith's chest, like "oh god, don't wanna deal with this"
-the casual, actually warm tone when Guts agrees to do the assassination contrasts really well with his reaction after doing the kill and then when he kills the kid, it shows so clearly he didn't understand how murder would be different from killing in battle and links it heavily to his relationship with Griffith.
-the kid's death; in battle they don't show people slowly dying like that, however gruesome the deaths are. Another moment where tv has the edge on manga.
-Guts' face was perfect there, I don't know if they're getting better in general or they just took more care with that scene, but perfect.
-jeez, I knew he made a mess of it, but I'd forgotten just how much of one
-Guts and Casca looking up at Griffith talking about his dream with Charlotte, great contrast there too, and the moon in the water broken up by ripples on the surface (and then that in the context of the later stuff about reflections and ripples down the road) this scene is so perfectly designed whatever medium it's in
-And then Casca looking up at the real moon, and it's not full even though in the reflection it looked like a perfect circle for a moment. Not sure if that detail was in the manga, but holy fuck, so much symbolism! Casca seeing reality for less perfect than the dream in the context of realizing Guts was the assassin, or could be that she can't see the whole of reality even when looking at the real thing, while Griffith looking in a reflection has grasped something of the whole, as a visionary who will become able to alter reality.
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Re: Berserk
by bomaye Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:55 pm
Memorial Edition E3
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- The Behelit opening its eyes to look at Guts, as if it's like "We need to watch out for this one"
- Griffith's childish smile that the Behelit of all things scared Gits
- Guts not bowing immediately for the King and you just know that he knows he could wipe out every single person there
- Griffith's fucking hawk eyes looking at Count Julius
- Guts kinda freaking out about assassinating the Count, before he took off his mask. Like he didn't realize assassination is not the same as killing in battle
- Desperately cleaning his blood-stained sword
- And then killing the kid gives him the PTSD effect
- Guts as a swordfighting badass with just a regular sword
- Casca bandaging Guts wound
- Even after a dream forsakes you, it smolders in your heart
- Casca kind of self-loathing look after Charlotte mentions the playfulness and philosophical nature of Griffith
- A friend is an equal. Interesting that Griffith is still so far ahead of Guts in real time but Guts is also the only one striving to become strong enough to kill post-Godhand Griffith
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Re: Berserk
by Enail Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:12 pm
Memorial edition E4
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-washing out period blood for her, no wonder she decided Guts was a keeper
-super-muscled abs and pecs in anime look way worse than in the manga, especially in the later manga where he's more skilled, you need the more skilled shading for them to not look ridiculous.
-also I feel like they showed more of the backstory rape scene unnecessarily than the manga did, which is weird because mostly it seems like the manga enjoyed showing & sexualizing that kind of thing more than it seemed like the anime did.
-the sword and reaching, threatening hand reflected in her eye
-that look on her face when he calls her a woman. I'm glad they seem to have improved the facial expressions some since the first two episodes
-whhyyyy does her period make her pass out for apparently hours on end and give her a high-grade fever?? Like, fainting, sure, but unconscious for hours, there's gotta be something seriously wrong with her uterus.
-I didn't remember it being that Guts changes Griffith, more than anything else, that makes Casca hate him, this kind of works better than just general jealousy.
-this guy is extra-cartoonish, even for the cartoonish villains
-Guts telling the enemies she'd bite their dicks off, and that little punch Casca gives him, it's the first moment you feel that familiarity between them, where it's just like of course they're friends giving each other shit, no matter what else they are to each other, enemy or love or tragedy. It feels so genuine and ordinary.
-and that "I'll think about what you asked me," when he's telling her to go, it gets across really well that he means it, like he's telling her it's as equals that he's protecting her rather than seeing her as weak.
-the way he looks at the arrow through his hand, tries his fingers a little, and smirks
-everybody was tits-out fighting, those boobs were fast as lightning
-the band just in time
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Re: Berserk
by bomaye Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:19 am
Memorial Edition E4
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- Adon is nostalgic too, fought him like 800 times in Band of the Hawk
- "I feel like swinging this as hard as I can." That's scary as fuck coming from Guts
- Forgotten how well the movies handled everything to do with the cave
- I fucking love the Hundred Man Guts fight in every medium
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Re: Berserk
by bomaye Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:13 am
Memorial Edition E5
- Spoiler:
- Ayyyyy Puck
- He fights 100 enemies instead of running because that's more his style
- Campfire of dreams, this is PAIN
- The inferno named Griffith
- Probably one of Griffith's coolest moments. "Just give me the order and we'll fucking take it."
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Re: Berserk
by Enail Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:01 pm
Memorial Edition E5
- Spoiler:
-CAMPFIRE EPISODE!!
-I like the way they're showing the fighting with no sound while he's thinking, gives the feel that he's almost on autopilot, totally disconnected from his body that's fighting
-and then BAM! Sound starts and you're in the thick of the fight
-oh, that's interesting, the version I'm watching just transliterated it as Tudor instead of Chuder like it usually does. That does make sense, and makes me wonder if there's more links to real history in the naming intended.
-It's Casca that finds Guts while Griffith's just kind of wandering around calling him, like Casca knows where to look because she knows him while Griffith assumes he'll come to him. Griffith has an ability to see right into people, but he kind of only looks for the soul, the big picture of what their essence can be; someone more ordinary like Casca has to see them through the details of who they are in each little moment.
-That little look between Judeau and Griffith, kind of a "do you see this, are you okay with Casca and Guts being this close?" I feel like you get more of a sense of Judeau than you do in the manga, I'm not sure if it's solely that an anime has more ability to flesh people out than a manga, or if I'm also paying more attention to details because I know the story basics already
-Aww, Casca crying that Griffith said Guts and her are essential
-I definitely think it's not just me, Judeau's gets more focus in the anime, I'm not even totally sure this scene with Judeau and Casca and talking about elves was in the manga at all. Might be that the anime needs more because Puck wasn't established at the start like in the manga, so it needs to introduce the idea of magic being real beyond the little bit we've seen of demons by this point, and more development for Judeau is just a bonus.
-Guts talking about admiring her and Griffith for having a meaningful goal, that wary look as she backs up to the tree, like she's waiting for it to turn out backhanded and patronizing.
-I don't think Guts talked so much about his soldiers in the manga, either, you really feel like he knows and cares about them, like it's demonstrating exactly how far he's come and why he's not the mad dog she said he was
-god, I love the campfire of dreams scene. It's the moment when you know for sure Berserk is really something special.
-I like the way Griffith conveys half of everything with those tiny little not-quite smiles, it really emphasizes how much he's an enigma and makes you believe how compelling everyone finds him, like the way sometimes a whisper forces people to listen more closely.
-"Just give me the order."
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Re: Berserk
by Enail Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:57 pm
Memorial Edition E6
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-god, the knight squadron names are so ridiculous
-the sound and animation does a great job of making the hoof-beats feel heavy, really makes you feel the weight of an army
-but otoh, I think the manga does a better job of capturing the difference between characters' fighting styles, somehow the solidity that sound and motion add dulls everyone's movements so they feel more the same. That's the opposite of what I would have expected. Though, to be fair, I might be basing that on later parts of the manga when Miura was really a master, at this point the art had quite a few clumsy bits.
-aw, Rickert's such a little firecracker
-I lol'd at that one guy riding forward relentlessly to get Griffith, and then when he's almost there his head just casually gets chopped off by some random soldier without anyone noticing, like he thought he was the hero and the story's just like "nah."
-that moment when Casca sees his sword in reach and her expression changes from worried to calculating.
-"Thoroughly enjoy this."
-That rain of blood and human and horse body parts
-Guts coming at the knight through the dust and you can just barely see enough to understand he's absolutely gonna destroy him
-Griffith sounding almost frantic when he orders a victory cheer
-the way he looks at the lord like a particularly gross bug, like he's insignificant but also he's a tiny bit scared it'll jump on him, then the complete coldness while he's talking and then finally at the end, that fraction of a smile he always does and then thwick, sword through the eye!
-they killed the Griffith lookalike servant, I feel like that says something.
-Casca blushing at her fangirls
This series is one that does well with repeat viewings, it's easier to skim over the flaws but the strong parts don't lose anything, I'm really enjoying it even though it's sooner than I'd usually enjoy a rewatch, I think beyond the amount where it could just be not having seen it animated.
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Re: Berserk
by bomaye Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:03 am
Memorial Edition E6
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- Griffith knowing that he's the bait to upset the command structure
- The infiltration is so cool
- Everyone stopping to watch Guts and Boscogn fight
- Grabbing the sword to beat Adon is totally the kind of thing Guts would do
- God, Boscogn raining blood and body parts down on everybody
- The one thing I didn't like about the movie/this version of Doldrey was that they left out Zodd being present
- Casca-samaaaaaaa~
- Outro hits fucking hard after this episode
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Re: Berserk
by Enail Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:43 pm
Memorial Edition E7
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-that hat, Corkus, who dressed you?
-WHAT
-FARNESE AND SERPICO
-HOLY FUCK
-We're only going to get a glimpse? I guess just to tie the before and the after in together a little more. Were they always there and I just didn't notice it because they weren't characters yet?
-again, the moon's a sliver when Guts is looking at it
-terrible hat in the air
-that look Guts and Griffith exchange, the way their expressions soften
-Guts asking Casca to dance wordlessly just when she's upset, like it's super-romantic, but then when we see them dancing it's basically just spinning round and round using each other as counter-weights for the entire rest of the evening (I'm not knocking it, this is also how I danced with my wife the first time 
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-I don't remember Guts and Judeau talking things out to this degree in the manga. I guess maybe the manga just showed more of his thoughts internally. I'm glad I watched this show just for the extra development for Judeau.
-wanted Griffith to see him, that sort of captures Griffith's charisma perfectly, he's someone who sees who you could be, you want him to see you
-Judeau has freckles. Feels sad to notice, somehow, discovering something new in someone I already know is dead, nothing left to discover.
-that fancy knife-spinning.
-Saying "maybe for a woman there's some joy in having ongoing feelings for a man she can never be with," while he presumably feels the exact same way for her.
-that little red figure against the snow
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Re: Berserk
by bomaye Tue Nov 15, 2022 3:09 pm
Memorial Edition E7
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- The party was the most heartwrenching part of these movies
- WAUGHHHH I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS A SERPICO AND FARNESE CAMEO
- Hundred Man Guts just slew 100 man and now he's about to slay 100 bitches
- Nevermind, it'll be 100 Lady Rickert
- Guts enjoying Casca's embarrassment at being ladylike for a bit
- Guts looking at the moon again
- Griffith surrounded by every goddamn Princess in the world but it's Guts that he seeks out
- Guts and Casca sharing a dance at the part, this is agony
- "What the heck's up with you and Casca?"
- Betcha Griffith would try to overthrow the Godhand too
- "Maybe Griffith is her Husbando" says Judeau
- The outro fucking kills after this episode too
- They after-credits'ed the setup for Guts ruining Griffith in one swing
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Re: Berserk
by Enail Sat Nov 19, 2022 6:29 pm
Memorial Edition E8
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-Aww, little Rickert trying to convince him not to leave
-Corkus being Corkus
-"We can't just smile and say 'see ya?'" The voice actor does a nice combo of the terse-and-ironic-Guts mode and something more genuine
-I always kind of wondered why Griffith insisted on making this hard and treating it as him leaving his grasp totally, he's good at reading people, seems like he should have realized Guts was going to come back some day and could have just let him drift in and out and come back when needed, even if he didn't fully understand Guts was really only leaving to try to be an equal friend to him. His misjudgements after this point feel like there's a reason he's making them, this one is just "huh, that was unusually dumb of him." Once he'd started from a position of forcing Guts to oppose him to leave it feels correct that he'd react the way he does, but starting it off that way to begin with seems like he's not understanding as much as he should.
-that strike, and it's like Griffith's world has ended
-In the manga I'm pretty sure Griffith never told Charlotte he should leave at first; this version makes it a little less like he came here specifically with the intention to have sex with her to feel like he's still got a hold on people and more like he just kind of showed up because he didn't know where else to go and then in response to her enthusiasm desperately grabs onto "sex with the princess, yeah, if I achieve that, things must still be okay." But the anime being a lot more detailed and graphic and kind of relentlessly showing what his hands are doing and her constant noises also comes off much more like the show's intent is for us to think "rape but really she likes it" rather than "rape? socially appropriate mild objection but she's actually on board? could be either." So it feels less consensual than the manga but also less calculated from the start? Also, not looking forward to how they're going to handle the Eclipse rape given how they're doing this bit, the manga was bad enough on being cheesily over-sexualized.
-Also, I'm not sure I noticed before, that when he's telling her to cast her fear and sadness into the fire, it comes off like he's telling her how to survive like he did
-the music makes it cheesier too
-while Griffith's curled up crying, the shot of the crew with Casca looking up, worried, silent in contrast to the frantic violinning during the sex scene, makes it more intense.
-Pippin's got a pair of lungs on him! And good ears!
-Griffith reading people perfectly at exactly the wrong time
-Casca's hero moment
-Hi, Puck!
-Bye Beheilit!
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Re: Berserk
by bomaye Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:29 am
Memorial Edition E8
Chapter 370
re: The Eclipse
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- Corkus "I've hated you the whole time!" Literally Everyone: "Yeah, we know."
- "If we ever meet on the battlefield, you better watch your back" because we know Corkus wouldn't attack from the front
- Griffith is so sure of himself and Guts KNOWS he can easily beat Griffith, his reaction to being challenged is almost a bother to him
- Corkus: "Getting an arm cut off might wake him up."
- Judeau realizes that Casca doesn't realize she might worship Griffith but Guts is her guy
- Cuts some silver hairs off and Griffith realizes like a second later that he should be dead
- Cast all of his fears and doubts into the fire, nothing's wrong, it's fine, everything's fine
- "Count Griffith, could you take off your freaky monster jewelry while we're doing the thing?"
- Can't help but think of Guts
- Griffith making no sounds of pain or agony during the process of his torture
- Puck cameo
- Newwww outro
Chapter 370
- Spoiler:
- Those gentle days were not so long ago ;_;
- One of the other witches made it out
- Guts is mentally fucked up now
- Not holding his sword either
- "Never believed in anything, only you"
re: The Eclipse
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The movie version is far more graphic with the violence, gore and Casca rape but also in a way it's so over the top in what it's showing that it loses some of the impact. The original anime version leaves some up to the imagination and the way the backgrounds are coloured, and even how the series just abruptly ends there, makes things much more horrifying and in a sense, the "worst" version
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Re: Berserk
by Enail Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:57 pm
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re: The Eclipse
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The movie version is far more graphic with the violence, gore and Casca rape but also in a way it's so over the top in what it's showing that it loses some of the impact. The original anime version leaves some up to the imagination and the way the backgrounds are coloured, and even how the series just abruptly ends there, makes things much more horrifying and in a sense, the "worst" version
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- That sounds like the same problems as with the manga, it's so cheesily sexualized and over-the-top it doesn't feel in line with the rest of the horror. It should be "worst" and if it's not, that means it's doing it wrong.
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Re: Berserk
by Enail Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:09 pm
Manga Ch. 370
They're doing a good job, but goddamn, I wish we could have seen Miura doing this.
- Spoiler:
-that cover of "gentle days"
-Serpico looking helpless like he can't decide whether he should try to comfort Farnese or not
-And then naughty witch interrupts and gives her something to do. Serpico kind of wondering if he has a place in Farnese's new world.
-Guts mentally broken down, and in the Berserk armour, on a crowded ship, that's even more terrifying
-his sword just lying on the ground like that, guess he's too devastated for the Berserk rage to even work on him.
-"Never believed in anything. Nothing. Only you."
They're doing a good job, but goddamn, I wish we could have seen Miura doing this.
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Re: Berserk
by Enail Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:05 pm
Memorial Edition E9
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-I love the dreamlike, uneasy feel of this bit, and the way his nightmarish things-going-wrong image is him chasing Guts instead of the castle.
-these background scenes are quite lovely; the misty forest, the sun in clouds, the stones in the river
-how sharp and efficient Casca's army come off here really works, the way the tide in the fight shifts from stunned chaos to taking the enemy down in organized fashion like they're on a to-do list. Instead of just telling you, it shows you how they move and makes that make you feel how they've transformed into what they needed to to survive the loss of Griffith and the world turning against them and how important Casca's been to that. This is one of the bits the show does better imo.
-"phew, Guts is back, he can babysit, I'm just gonna fall 100 metres down this waterfall and chill." It's so out of nowhere because she's just been acting normal "hardworking commander takes on too much stress and doesn't rest", but you realize something in her has been destroyed and she's just been a shell that's kept holding everything together because that's what needs doing, but she is really not okay.
-"From now on, you stay away from cliffs"
-that forehead kiss
-them taking off each other's armour piece by piece, taking turns, before they can do anything beyond kissing, is kind of hilarious but also kind of sweet
-jeez, they take it really far on him strangling her
-that one ridiculous crazy-face in the middle of his ptsd'ing made me lol and completely took me out of the seriousness of the scene
-Casca's total wtf, concerned expression, like she's wondering if she can grab her pants and sneak off without him noticing. Also shouldn't be funny, but I'm still a little taken out of the scene from that one crazy face. Plus I do think this part worked better in the manga where it reads faster, though, spoken like this it comes off as too much exposition; feels unnatural and like it's just being squished in awkwardly because that's how much backstory they want to give.
-But the bit where he realizes what happened and is offering to leave works well here, the voice actor does a good job with him trying to put up his normal walls again but not quite being able to
-goddamn it, again, it's meant to be them falling to the ground in an embrace, but they didn't animate them moving enough to make it look right and it looks like they're holding still and just slowly toppling over. Completely ruined the moment. The violin music feels goofy too.
-hey, they completely skipped the bit about her scars! That was a really important character moment!
-I like that last scene where they zoom out and you see all their armour scattered around, though
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Re: Berserk
by Enail Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:27 pm
Memorial Edition E10
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-Skull knight! I don't think he met him here in the manga, did he?? It's interesting that the moment he says the gears have already begun to turn is when Guts and Casca get together, as opposed to something like when Griffith gets captured or when Guts leaves. It suggests that if everything had been the same, but Guts and Casca weren't together, Griffith wouldn't have done what he did. But it's hard to imagine him choosing the quiet country life past the moment he had all his strength and ability and voice and beauty taken away, everything that gave him power over his life; doesn't seem like it's in his character even if Casca and Guts were both entirely his, I feel like it might just have taken longer. But I guess Skull Knight knows better than me
-hey, they skipped the Casca-Guts interactions on the mission, I liked those! I think a lot of post-sex interaction too.
-they skipped Casca grappling with Charlotte's existence and all the character development for Charlotte, too. It's a shame, I'd been surprised how much she became a real character when she'd been just a princess stereotype for plot purposes before then. At least they also skipped the excessively detailed scene of her father raping her too, though, I did not need to see that.
-Guts' voice when he sees Griffith
-I hadn't noticed before, Griffith reaching his hand to strangle Guts parallels with Guts strangling Casca during his PTSD flashback. And Griffith's also ends with a move towards affection, resting his hand on Guts'.
-that complete expressionlessnesss on Guts' face while brutally killing the torturer, and then suddenly going full-on berserker on the soldiers, like by the time his emotions connected his body was already moving and then the rage hits and his body basically is the rage.
-YES! Protecting the horses for once!
-Corkus botching his moment to give orders
-they're doing some nice little moments to show emotions, like Casca's smile fading as she walks away from the soldiers, the way Guts is so gentle and cheerful helping Griffith, feels like a gift of normalcy to him. And he's actually good at looking after people, back before the Eclipse emotionally destroyed him, compared to how much he struggled with looking after Casca after. Though, to be fair, he was also constantly fighting off demons then.
-Corkus crying
-Casca's voice actor is killing it here
-Judeau telling Guts to go and take Casca with him
-everyone wanting to follow Guts now, without any thought to Griffith now he can't lead them,
-why are these guys just repeating "captain" forty million times, it's past the point where they sound eager and is rapidly moving into sounding like they've lost all language abilities and are just repeating the one sound they know like dogs barking.
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Re: Berserk
by bomaye Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:01 pm
Slightly behind on Berserk but I'll catch up on a few of them tomo
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Re: Berserk
by bomaye Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:18 pm
Memorial Edition E9
- Spoiler:
- Griffith running to Guts instead of his fabled kingdom in his dreams
- I liked the original anime's depiction of supernatural shit more, like the moment when Griffith is seeing Void and the gang for the first time
- Ayyy, mention of the Conviction Arc peeps
- Ayyyy Silat
- "Four" God damn, Guts always a badass
- Casca's look of shock when Guts actually gets hit and then pulls her sword out with his hand like "Oh no, I broke it, I didn't mean to!"
- Guts kinda still has a bleeding wound while they're gettin busy
- Guts never quite got over Gambino being a shitbag
- "Otosan" Come on, man
- Casca hugs him from behind and they DIDN'T go over the cliff
- "It'd just be us licking each other's wounds."
- Guts asking her to go with him this time
- Hundred Man Guts, more like Hundred Fucks Guts
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Re: Berserk
by bomaye Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:26 pm
Chapter 371
- Spoiler:
- The sword's memories of battle, and Griffith in his armour is the thing that bothers him the most
- Island still sinking, and Griffith has snatched his princess
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Re: Berserk
by Enail Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:04 pm
Memorial Edition E11
Episode title: Eclipse, damn, I'm not ready for this
Episode title: Eclipse, damn, I'm not ready for this
- Spoiler:
-they cut a lot of the cheesy/pointless/skeevy bits between finding Griffith and the Eclipse.
-woah, the scene where Griffith gets on top of Casca has a really different feel from in the manga, much more clearly would-be rape. Here it reads like he's intentionally pushing her down vs the manga seems more like he was making a move of some sort but not clear what and then maybe half-falls half-intentionally pushes her down, he keeps trying when she holds him away vs the manga he just seems to be shaking with exertion or emotion for a moment. Compared to the manga, Griffith's side is less pathetic and ambiguous and Casca's more totally rejecting him instead of just seeming uncertain how to react and horrified by what's happened to him.
-Griffith's eye opening right away when Guts says he'll stay too. I think in the manga it's not till Casca tells Guts to go, which feels like it's more about Casca's feelings for Guts he's reacting to or even realizing he's holding her back from what she wants, here what he does next is more about Guts' feelings for Casca or maybe about Guts pitying him instead of seeing him as someone he has to pursue his own dreams for to be equal to.
-floating in the enormous sky, this bit looks amazing
-that broken laugh
-oh no, here it comes, sun's going away... Hey, how about we just not do this, happy ending instead this time? Please?
-thinking "stay away," and "if you touch me, I'll never..." like it's happening regardless of his will, it's blurrier than I remembered it, makes you wonder if it would have been different if Guts hadn't touched him, and why it's that moment that matters, but it's also a moment where it's impossible for Guts to not have touched him, the avalanche is already rolling.
-Casca taking charge before they all break
-and in this realm of unspeakable horror, Guts is just like "damn, my girlfriend's hot"
-the Godhand people always look ridiculous to me. Like, come on, a goofy little fat face with glasses? A baby's face on a big body? For someone who designs all kinds of truly horrifying creatures, why the fuck did Miura go with these??
-the music is weirdly Disney-magical at the top of the giant hand, too. But the colours and everything are really successfully creepy.
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Re: Berserk
by bomaye Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:38 pm
Memorial Edition E10
- Spoiler:
- Skull Knight spookiness is so cool
- "Go hard or Go home, bro." He gallops around the interstice of the cosmic unconsciousness and flutters in the fantastia of our dreams and this is the supernatural advice he gives a guy who killed the shit out of 100 dudes by himself
- Ayyy Gaiseric the Skull Knight
- Griffith looked powerful as fuck but ultimately couldn't do shit to Guts, then the tables turned, Guts looked like he was getting more and more powerful but ultimately literally couldn't do shit to Griffith
- There's the psycho "kill all the monsters" Guts
- How fucking quickly all the soldiers in the hole turn around to run away as Guts charges up the staircase
- And the Band of the Hawk standing there with a "What the FUCK" look on their faces before Casca realizes that maybe they should go
- Hell yeah, Guts and the Raiders
- Guts looking up to the blue sky as the Raiders are happy to see him again and then transitioning that outro, got me again
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Re: Berserk
by Enail Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:02 pm
Memorial Edition E12
- Spoiler:
-god, the road of corpses is creepy
-the lighting is really good here, Griffith's brightness, the eerie green colour, the light of the castle. I feel like this is something later Miura is fantastic at (barring the colour), but I'm not sure he was as good at this point.
-Ubik (I think? I never really learned their names) just keeps seeming more and more ridiculous
-that coldness in Griffith's eyes when he first turns to look at Guts, and only when he decides on the sacrifice does he look more sad
-again the light is so good, the light just red enough that it feels like the scent of blood, but only a hint, it feels more real than if they'd made it blaring blood-red
-the 3d waves of fire bringing down the mark feel more cartoonish, though
-Pippin holding back the demons
-Judeau telling Casca she has to survive because if she does, the Band of the Hawk is still alive, feels even worse knowing that Griffith just rolls up and makes a new one, like it's invalidating the tiny little triumph of them managing to keep the original alive in spite of it all.
- huh, I wonder why Zod has no interest in the Eclipse party
-Corkus wandering alone in the hellish landscape trying to convince himself it's just a dream really got to me this time
-Corkus you sucker
-Guts refusing to believe Griffith would do this
-that shuddering little doll demon
-Judeau's smile when she tells him he killed it
-his thoughts, god fucking damn this is all still a total heartbreaker
-Judeau
-Griffith going through the rebirth is fucking amazing here, the way it feels both unreal and very visceral, it makes you believe the physicality of his body changing and that it goes all the way through to his soul and the soul of the world
-that silent lake of corpses
-oh god Gaston's corpse
-dead Pippin being ripped apart in front of him, I hate this
-the heads on spikes and faces in the mouths of demons and the grotesqueness of all the deaths, it feels like it's not just killing them but spitting on their humanity at some deep, fundamental level, I hate this so much
-halfway feeling like DON'T STOP THERE! and halfway "Just stop there, please, don't make them keep going."
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Re: Berserk
by Enail Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:16 pm
Chapter 371
- Spoiler:
-poor Guts
-poor Guts' sword
-is Guts' despair making the whirlpool?? Or just metaphorically echoing it?
-I feel kind of guilty for leaving Guts alone when he's like this even though it's the story switching to the other group, like we've been there for his whole journey up to now so we have some kind of duty to stay and offer moral support instead of going to check on Sonia
-I also really want to throw things at Zod right now
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Re: Berserk
by bomaye Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:42 am
Memorial Edition E11 + 12 (Forgot to make a new window and then forgot where the episodes ended <_<)
Berserk Musings
- Spoiler:
- The music as Griffith's child-self sets him on the path
- Mannnn, the build-up to Griffith realizing what'll happen if Guts touches him
- If only Guts had his sword with him, the Godhand woulda been like "Maybe let's do this later" and then BOOP
- Casca telling them to just focus on what they can do rather than what they can't understand
- Griffith trying to hold on to Guts as he's ascended up the Godhand
- There's apparently always a tinge of regret in Griffith's actions once he becomes Femto, or so people who've studied Berserk a lot more closely than me, like he wants his people AND his kingdom. When he has his people, he longs for a Kingdom, then when he finally gets a Kingdom, he longs for his people. Godhand only needed him to verbally agree to it for a second and then he's done.
- Griffith gets hoisted to the top of the Godhand, Guts climbs up there himself.
- The gore in this version is much worse, but it's tinged a little more purple which oddly softens it. The original anime was a lot more red, which may be partly why I thought it was the more horrifying version
- I wonder if Femto is incomplete just because Guts and Casca survived
- The thing I liked about Femto's design was that despite being reborn as a demon king, he's still trapped behind the cage-mask that his torturer put on him
re: The Baby's face with a big body, there's a freaky monster that looks exactly like that in Bleach too, so I wonder if there's some kind of yokai or well-known demon or something in Japanese culture that that's supposed to represent
Berserk Musings
- Spoiler:
I wonder if Guts is ever going to get to the point where the Godhand is going to offer HIM an advent and the ability to sacrifice everything he cares about for power. Like they'll know he's strong enough to fuck them up and they're just afraid enough to try to let him into the club instead
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